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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 11-16-2005, 04:44 PM Thread Starter
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My dumb a$$ father got his 2nd DUI last summer and its finally playing out in court (Montgomery, IL).

Well, to make a long story short I'm never sure what he's telling me is the truth. He's also a bit of a numbskull so maybe he doesn't know the facts.

He lost his license for a year or more and had just bought a brand new car. So he moved from Montgomery to Chicago so he could take the train and be closer to me.

I also had an open space in my garage where I've been storing his car. So today he calls me and says that the charges would be elevated to a misdimenor (sp?) unless he turns in the license plates and transfers title or something weird I don't understand.

So while I was storing the car in the garage he said I could use it which I've been doing about once a month. He now tells me that I need to get my own plates and insurance.

This is contrary to what his State Farm agent told him because I had him ask his agent if I would be insured under his policy and they said it was OK.

So does anyone know about this stuff? I don't want to register the car because its a pain and I never use it. What I question is that the state of IL makes you turn in the plates and cancel your insurance.

I mean cant you be a car collector and register the car with the state and not drive it? My dad tells me that its illegal for him to have active plates with his DUI. Makes no sense to me but then I don't know what the state is telling him.

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I am guessig he doesnt want to pay for the insurance on it and is telling you a story. I have never heard that before.




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No he's always said he will pay the insurance in exchange for the storage fees.

I'm guessing he has his head wayyyyyy up his a$$.

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if he tghinks its a huge problem just have him sign the vehicle over to you. then just throw storage insurance on it, very cheap.




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My dad tells me that its illegal for him to have active plates with his DUI. Makes no sense to me but then I don't know what the state is telling him.
Makes no sense to me at all...never heard of this, and I've had MANY friends get 1 and even 2 DUIs and they have never had to do this....I'm sure more people will have more information for you though.

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I didn't want anything to do with the whole situation but then some idiot t-boned my car so it just made sense at some level to use his car. Now its becoming this whole pain because my old plates are trashed so I'd have to pay to register it myself.

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then just pay it? 78.00? do you need a loan?
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Its not that as much as it is dealing with my dad. I'm really not looking for your monetary opinion as much as I am your knowledge of this situation.

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I also had an open space in my garage where I've been storing his car. So today he calls me and says that the charges would be elevated to a misdimenor (sp?) unless he turns in the license plates and transfers title or something weird I don't understand.
It sounds like his plates were suspended by the state on account of the second DUI. I don't see anything in the DUI law that allows that, but I haven't searched very thoroughly, either. It is a misdemeanor to fail to turn in your plates and registration card when your plates are suspended, according to the law. Chances are that his insurance has either been cancelled due to the suspension of his plates, or due to the DUI, or some of both.

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I believe that they do suspend the plates for an actual DUI conviction. Someone I know learned that in one of the DUI classes, and was very worried about it. What they didn't explain is that if you get court supervision, the plates aren't suspended. Anyway, with a second DUI it is quite possible his plates were suspended.

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I would say he has also had his license revoked. No drivey for 5+ years......
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Wow, I'm lucky I'm not using the car like he asked. If I was pulled over I'd be screwed. And I talked to his State Farm agent about my coverage a few months ago and he said I was OK.

So I talked to my dad again last night and he told me this suspension might last up to 3 years! I think I'm going to tell him he should sell the car to pay for his legal defense fund as I have no interest in getting a ticket or the insurance liability concerns that may be attached to his situation.

He could sell me the car for $1 or transfer title to me but then its not the car I want to be driving.

My next question is does anyone know a decent DUI lawyer in Chicago (off Blue Line) or in Montgomery? His current guy fails to show up at court and he also used him for his home sale and the idiot didn't show up for that either.

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Second DUI conviction is a revoked license. 5 years for sure. Not the same as a suspension, lots more hoops to jump through to get it back. I would have him sell the car for sure, it'll be worthless when he can drive again. If he can afford the insurance.
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Second DUI conviction is a revoked license. 5 years for sure. Not the same as a suspension, lots more hoops to jump through to get it back. I would have him sell the car for sure, it'll be worthless when he can drive again. If he can afford the insurance.
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Everyones different my buddy has 3 dui and only lost his license for 3 years
The seond one was 2 years of no driving and one year of work permit and thats in cook county if you get a good enough layer youll be ok from the sound of things
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Hell if it's a free car why not? Even if you transfer to your name the taxes are cheaper because it's a family member no matter the cost of buying the car. I wanna say like $25 or something cheap like that. Then in 3 years if he wants back then transfer back to him. The only killer might be for the insurance on it under your name??

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So I talked to my dad again last night and he told me this suspension might last up to 3 years! I think I'm going to tell him he should sell the car to pay for his legal defense fund as I have no interest in getting a ticket or the insurance liability concerns that may be attached to his situation.

He could sell me the car for $1 or transfer title to me but then its not the car I want to be driving.
You probably won't get a ticket if the car's not registered: there's no law requiring either that you register, or that you carry insurance if you aren't registered. About the worst that could happen would be to get a housing code violation for having an unregistered car on property.

Why wouldn't you want to drive that car? As long as your record's OK, it's not like the plate suspension will transfer to you. Besides, it's good for the car to be driven periodically.

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My next question is does anyone know a decent DUI lawyer in Chicago (off Blue Line) or in Montgomery? His current guy fails to show up at court and he also used him for his home sale and the idiot didn't show up for that either.
Visit the Chicago Bar Association's Lawyer Referral Service Web site, or call (312) 554-2001. While he's at it, he may want to file a complaint against the guy who's representing him now. Not showing up for court once is bad enough, but twice is just flat-out malpractice.

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