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Speeding Tickets in Wisconsin

Just a heads up and a FYI for eveyone here. If you get a ticket for speeding in Wisconsin you can ask the states attorney to change the ticket from speeding to "INATENTIVE DRIVING". This does not show up in the Illinois database and does not count as a moving violation in Illinois. However, here's the catch. Lets us my situation as an example. I got a speeding ticket in Sheboygan county on 57 south of Elkhart Lake for doing 70 in a 55. If I were to just pay the ticket (Wisconsin Does Not offer Court Supervision) then it would only be 3 points on my privledge to operate a motor vehicle in wisconsin. But an Inatentive Driving is 4 points. The point I'm trying to make is that it doesn't show up on an Illinois driving record as a speeding ticket. Fucking ticket still cost 175 bucks. DON'T GET PULLED OVER IN WISCONSIN!!! It's expensive. For gods sake I was towing the trailer, I wasn't even on the bike.

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Thanks for the info. I did not know about the innatentive driving. They didn't tell me that when I called them after the one time I got a ticket. But they did give the choice to knock it down from 17 over to 7 over or reduce the fine by $25. I took the 10 MPH reduction. I asked why no supervision and they said, "we believe in WI that if you get a ticket it should go on your record."

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That's funny, I haven't gotten a speeding ticket in WI in over 8 years.

I got pulled over sunday for doing 38 in a 25 and got a warning, had another warning for 40 in a 25 last fall, a defective spedometer shortly before that and a unreasonable and imprudent speed citation the year before that but that was dropped too. I guess it pays to be from WI, and ride with a defense attorney.
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Where were you lasted year. Got a ticket for 85 in a 55. 250 bucks later. But it didn't show up in my record in IL. At least my insurance hasn't gone up

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DON'T GET PULLED OVER IN WISCONSIN!!! It's expensive.
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Key word is, DONT RIDE LIKE AN IDIOT WITH OUT OF STATE PLATES!!.


BTW get caught in WI over 100, you will be arrested. 85+ usually is an automatic 60 day suspension.
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Key word is, DONT RIDE LIKE AN IDIOT WITH OUT OF STATE PLATES!!.


BTW get caught in WI over 100, you will be arrested. 85+ usually is an automatic 60 day suspension.

That's a lot of key words, Rob. And Nick was in his truck pulling a trailer when he got nabbed.

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I wonder why they are stricter than the other states.
because there are a lot of Illinois people riding in Wisconsin every weekend
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Thanks for a heads up.
I will be riding over 1100 miles in WI on August 10th-12th. BTW, anybody ever rode in very north parts of WI: Boulder junction, Conover, Hurley? How is the road surface? Are there lots of gravel roads that show OK on GPS and mapping software?
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Damn, WI doesn't play. I will be very careful there. I wonder why they are stricter than the other states.

Seriously its due to the number of IL plates using I90 like a freaking racetrack. When you are cruising at 80mph and some jackweed SUV's/sportscars/family cars with those "Land of Lincoln" plates flys by at 100mph.... What do ya expect?


Chills, There was an anonymous tip about some IL guy in a dark coloured S10 nick-named Grasshopper that liked to drive fast towing a trailer near Road America.

State police still has yet to mail me my check.....Maybe I shouldnt had said that....
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I guess the sign 65 means 65 as you enter WI has a special meaning. Got pinched a few times in the dairy land myself. It SUCKS
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Just a heads up and a FYI for eveyone here. If you get a ticket for speeding in Wisconsin you can ask the states attorney to change the ticket from speeding to "INATENTIVE DRIVING". This does not show up in the Illinois database and does not count as a moving violation in Illinois. However, here's the catch. Lets us my situation as an example. I got a speeding ticket in Sheboygan county on 57 south of Elkhart Lake for doing 70 in a 55. If I were to just pay the ticket (Wisconsin Does Not offer Court Supervision) then it would only be 3 points on my privledge to operate a motor vehicle in wisconsin. But an Inatentive Driving is 4 points. The point I'm trying to make is that it doesn't show up on an Illinois driving record as a speeding ticket. Fucking ticket still cost 175 bucks. DON'T GET PULLED OVER IN WISCONSIN!!! It's expensive. For gods sake I was towing the trailer, I wasn't even on the bike.
+1 on not getting pulled over in Wisconsin, I GOT A FUCKING 138 DOLLAR TICKET ON A FAWKING JET SKI, YES A FAWKING JET SKI
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Seriously its due to the number of IL plates using I90 like a freaking racetrack. When you are cruising at 80mph and some jackweed SUV's/sportscars/family cars with those "Land of Lincoln" plates flys by at 100mph.... What do ya expect?


Chills, There was an anonymous tip about some IL guy in a dark coloured S10 nick-named Grasshopper that liked to drive fast towing a trailer near Road America.

State police still has yet to mail me my check.....Maybe I shouldnt had said that....
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Unreasonable/imprudent Speed

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That's funny, I haven't gotten a speeding ticket in WI in over 8 years.

I got pulled over sunday for doing 38 in a 25 and got a warning, had another warning for 40 in a 25 last fall, a defective spedometer shortly before that and a unreasonable and imprudent speed citation the year before that but that was dropped too. I guess it pays to be from WI, and ride with a defense attorney.

I got hit with Unreasonable/Imprudent speed coming back from elkhart lake. Only problem is...I wasn't stopped..
Sheriff was on his way to a call and flew past a bunch of bikers...remembered one of my friend's plate# and was pressured into giving everyone else's plate (knucklehead gave him my CP #).
Cop called me next day asking for my DL#. He said if I didn't give it to him, he'd find out anyway and then would put out a warrant and several citations including failure to yield to an emergency vehicle and speeding" I panicked and gave it to him (BIG MISTAKE)!!!!!
I briefly spoke with the Judge in Wi and he was kinda cool, asked me to call the prosecuting attorney and tell her the story. "It is possible to take care of it over the phone" (wrong info on ticket, sheriff cannot ID me, cannot prove or demonstrate I was speeding, COP was agressively seeking an admition of speed, etc.
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I got hit with Unreasonable/Imprudent speed coming back from elkhart lake. Only problem is...I wasn't stopped..
Sheriff was on his way to a call and flew past a bunch of bikers...remembered one of my friend's plate# and was pressured into giving everyone else's plate (knucklehead gave him my CP #).
Cop called me next day asking for my DL#. He said if I didn't give it to him, he'd find out anyway and then would put out a warrant and several citations including failure to yield to an emergency vehicle and speeding" I panicked and gave it to him (BIG MISTAKE)!!!!!
I briefly spoke with the Judge in Wi and he was kinda cool, asked me to call the prosecuting attorney and tell her the story. "It is possible to take care of it over the phone" (wrong info on ticket, sheriff cannot ID me, cannot prove or demonstrate I was speeding, COP was agressively seeking an admition of speed, etc.
Hey SUPERSPUD, any chance you could help a brother out with the defense attorney?
That ALL sucks, when did this all happen? Doesn't your buddy know the. "I have NO CLUE who those people were riding rule"?
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superspud has a lead foot.... with a string attached to his wrist... (that 38 in a 25 was in his car... and about 10 miles later he passed another cop doing 15 over i belive)

WI is a stickler state for tickets, they are expensive and costly especially when insurance catches up to you.

just an fyi to anyone who gets pulled over in this state, show up to court, or request a pretrial conference, be patient with the DA and/or judge and they will almost always reduce the fine and the points.
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NO SHIT!!!

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EXACTLY!! That's totally what I would say and have said it. I know none of you... except the dude on the busa with a sliver KBC helmet painted like a WWII fighter. I'd give the officer his home address.

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If you are stopped you have to give them your liscene, reg, and proof of insurance. IF they want any other info, including "do you know why I stopped you", who are these people, etc, etc You can tell him to that you have nothing to say to him. Never admitt anything to a police officer. Hell, on a phone call, I would just hang up. You have no idea if the person calling is really a police officer. It could be someone fishing for info for identity theft.

Best if you prempt the officer when stopped by asking "Why was I stopped?" as soon as they pull you over. Prevents them from fishing for an admission of guilt. If they presist on questioning you about friends etc, ask "Am I being detained, or am I free to go?" along with "I have nothing to say"

Saying anything just hurts you. They'll write you a ticket and let you be on your way.

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If you are stopped you have to give them your liscene, reg, and proof of insurance. IF they want any other info, including "do you know why I stopped you", who are these people, etc, etc You can tell him to that you have nothing to say to him. Never admitt anything to a police officer. Hell, on a phone call, I would just hang up. You have no idea if the person calling is really a police officer. It could be someone fishing for info for identity theft.

Best if you prempt the officer when stopped by asking "Why was I stopped?" as soon as they pull you over. Prevents them from fishing for an admission of guilt. If they presist on questioning you about friends etc, ask "Am I being detained, or am I free to go?" along with "I have nothing to say"

Saying anything just hurts you. They'll write you a ticket and let you be on your way.

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Little warning about doing that. Local and county officers it wouldn really be a big deal. Now with WI state police, be very, very carefull how you word things. Really sucks to turn a simple speeding ticket into a full vehicle safety inspection. And yes they will do this. Usually takes 60-90 mins.
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Don't we have enough good roads here in IL (west and south) ?

I stay out of WI mainly because of everything posted in this thread.
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Don't we have enough good roads here in IL (west and south) ?

I stay out of WI mainly because of everything posted in this thread.
Hell I have yet to see any LEO in SW WI's alphabet roads.
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If you are stopped you have to give them your liscene, reg, and proof of insurance. IF they want any other info, including "do you know why I stopped you", who are these people, etc, etc You can tell him to that you have nothing to say to him. Never admitt anything to a police officer. Hell, on a phone call, I would just hang up. You have no idea if the person calling is really a police officer. It could be someone fishing for info for identity theft.

Best if you prempt the officer when stopped by asking "Why was I stopped?" as soon as they pull you over. Prevents them from fishing for an admission of guilt. If they presist on questioning you about friends etc, ask "Am I being detained, or am I free to go?" along with "I have nothing to say"

Saying anything just hurts you. They'll write you a ticket and let you be on your way.

Video on your rights in a traffic stop.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...47761350501823
In Wi., you don't need proof of insurance. If you get pulled over and refuse to sign your ticket, you're going to jail (that is their guarantee that you'll show up for court). You don't have to surrender your DL if you're out of state.
I called my old Marine Co who is a Chicago cop and gave him the details and he has coached me on what to say. He also asked for advise from the CPD Laywers. He also told me to call the prosecuting attorney and explain the situation nicely. Let them know that, if I have to go to court, I will the put the Deputy's word in doubt thereafter.
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yeah dude I got nailed about 2 months ago for 88 in a 65.

cost me 281.00 and thats not pasos
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yeah dude I got nailed about 2 months ago for 88 in a 65.

cost me 281.00 and thats not pasos
Wisconsin Isn't the worse. I got nailed on the 15 freeway south of LA a couple years ago in a rental car for doing 96 in a 65. After it was all said and done that fucking ticket cost over 500 bucks. Cop on a Beemer R1100 pulled me over.

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Wisconsin Isn't the worse. I got nailed on the 15 freeway south of LA a couple years ago in a rental car for doing 96 in a 65. After it was all said and done that fucking ticket cost over 500 bucks. Cop on a Beemer R1100 pulled me over.

500 bucks?


Hell I dont want to think what that Chippie would had got me for after I passed him going 85-90 in a 35 on Mulholland Dr. We pasts as we crested a rise at teh same time. All I seen was brake lights come on and decided to start taking some various side roads.
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Wisconsin Isn't the worse. I got nailed on the 15 freeway south of LA a couple years ago in a rental car for doing 96 in a 65. After it was all said and done that fucking ticket cost over 500 bucks. Cop on a Beemer R1100 pulled me over.
lol, when I was living in Southern California, I had a cop on a beemer pass me and wave to me while I was doing 100mph down the 15 on my SV.
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ahhh what an enjoyable read it amazes me that you folks are complaining for getting busted for doing 85+ in a 65 zone.

Its been a while since I got a tix in IL - IS $175 a lot for a tix in WI ? What will an IL tix set you back?

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