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Algonquin to have zero tolerance on speeders

From the Suntimes to give you a heads up.

1 mph over the limit? Don't do it in Algonquin

August 12, 2006

BY TOM POLANSEK Courier News

Drivers often assume they are safe from police if they stay within about 10 mph of the speed limit.

Starting Monday, they'll have to think again in far northwest suburban Algonquin.

Algonquin village officials announced Friday their plans to enforce a "zero-tolerance policy on speeding" and said the effort would begin on Bunker Hill Drive, a residential street that runs parallel to Algonquin Road.

The policy means that motorists who travel even 1 mph over the posted 25 mph limit face a $75 ticket.

"If you're going to speed on the residential streets in the village of Algonquin, you can count on getting a ticket," Village President John Schmitt said.

Schmitt said speeding on Bunker Hill has been a problem for years. He said Algonquin had installed extra stop signs and "traffic-calming devices," or small speed bumps, to slow motorists, but that vehicles continued to speed by.

Algonquin police Sgt. Wade Merritt said the zero-tolerance policy on Bunker Hill is a first for the village. He defended the measure as a worthwhile use of police officers' time.

Representatives of police departments in other local communities said they have never enforced a zero-tolerance speeding policy and do not have the staff to do so.

Merritt said police will enforce the zero-tolerance policy for six weeks and then evaluate its effectiveness.

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What a waste of time. Hopefully they won't go past the one road.

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All speedo's are off.
Speedo on my bike is off by 3 m/h. I think there is an allowed error +\- 3 m/h.
You can ask them for paper if there radar was calibrated.
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Guess I'll be keeping me and my money out of Algonquin. Zero Tolerance is BS! It leaves no room for judgement of people or officers. If the people of Algonquin want this kind of law enforcement, they can have it all to themselves.

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Guess I'll be keeping me and my money out of Algonquin. Zero Tolerance is BS! It leaves no room for judgement of people or officers. If the people of Algonquin want this kind of law enforcement, they can have it all to themselves.
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That is stupid. I will no longer shop anywhere in that area, I'm going to go neighboring stores in Crystal Lake just to avoid that stupid town.

And what a waste of time, Judges just toss out tickets around 5 over in the county courts. If I got one of those I would challenge the issuing officer for the radar calibration and take that one to court.

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Ahhh, found some more information missing from the original posts that explains this a bit more:
http://www.nwherald.com/CommunitySec...0308097287.php

Seems residents on Bunker Hill road are outraged at the drivers outside their homes as rush-hour traffic speeds by with commuters trying to drive around rt. 62. This is not a road that people should be flying down as it's populated, has a 25 mph limit, and is mostly no passing. Not quite the end of the world that the Sun-Times article leads it to sounds like.

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That is stupid. I will no longer shop anywhere in that area, I'm going to go neighboring stores in Crystal Lake just to avoid that stupid town.

And what a waste of time, Judges just toss out tickets around 5 over in the county courts. If I got one of those I would challenge the issuing officer for the radar calibration and take that one to court.

Here's a tip, concentrate on real crime instead of sucking $$$ from your own citizens.
Are there any businesses on that road?

These types of no tolerance will bring $$ into the city from ticket income, but it typically costs the town overall from lost sales tax revenue. People won't drive into a zero speeding tolerance town. Also, is there increased accidents to warrant this? A couple bad accidents or close calls might warrant increased enforcement, but zero tolerance leaves no room for equipment error (both sides).

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Will be interesting to note if they keep the 0 tol. policy only on that one road as mentioned of it's more widely used as justification to pull anyone over anywhere in the city.

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I've seen villages do this on alternative residential routes before. People used to cut down Meyer road by my parents house all the time. Before long, cops were there every hour of the day writing tickets. I got pulled over for 5 over but when the cop saw my address he let me go with a warning. This shouldn't be a big deal. People shouldn't be speeding down residential streets anyhow.
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People shouldn't be speeding down residential streets anyhow.
Going 1 MPH over is NOT speeding
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That's pretty stupid. Like previously said speedometers are not accurate to 1mph. I've used my GPS in my Xterra and the speedo is off by about 2mph. I rented a Taurus and it was off by almost 9mph.

People shouldn't be speeding in residential areas, but nabbing someone going mph over is ridiculous.

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Going 1 MPH over is NOT speeding

Technically it is.

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Technically it is.
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Guess I'll be keeping me and my money out of Algonquin. Zero Tolerance is BS! It leaves no room for judgement of people or officers. If the people of Algonquin want this kind of law enforcement, they can have it all to themselves.
A big +1

Although they may not actually be enforcing true zero tolerance, the message this sends is stay the fack outta there.
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Like was said before....

If you take into account error of the speedometer on the vehicle, the error on the radar gun, the perception error of the operator of the vehicle as to where the need is located on the speedometer face... there is so much error that zero tolerance is ridiculous!!
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Yea I don't see the judge holding up any tickets for 1 mile over. The judge will get tired of seeing the whole town in his courtroom


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Actually that's the perfect town to do it in, while cops are busy sitting on Bunker Hill you can run amuk everywhere else. Didn't you see DieHard 3? :P

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Yea I don't see the judge holding up any tickets for 1 mile over. The judge will get tired of seeing the whole town in his courtroom

I would love to see that.....everyone with a ticket for 1 MPH over showing up to fight it....imagine the court costs That will save them a bundle

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This is a typical liberal response. Create more regulation and policy. Had the police been enforcing the CURRENT speed restrictions and say, been pulling people over for going over 5 or 10 MPHs over the limit, then you would not have this problem.

Now, the police have to appease the residents in that area and publicly come on and say that they have this new zero tolerance policy.

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I dunno about that. I am in residential areas all day long, and soccer moms drive the streets as if they were a race track. Something has to be done in the residential areas ... I am all for it.
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This is a typical liberal response.
Dude! Do you ever seriously listen to yourself?

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I dunno about that. I am in residential areas all day long, and soccer moms drive the streets as if they were a race track. Something has to be done in the residential areas ... I am all for it.
Typical liberal response, right Brian?

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Typical liberal response, right Brian?
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Dude! Do you ever seriously listen to yourself?
You are as constant as the Northern Star. I was wondering when you or Arch would chime in.

Frankly, Iím getting tired of the nanny-state that those in power want to create. Uphold the current law. That is all I am asking for.

This "no tolerance" stuff is simply PR smoke and mirrors to appease the residents.

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