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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 01-02-2007, 10:22 PM Thread Starter
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Should I fight?

I got a ticket tonight. 66 in a 35. Find it hard I was going this fast so I asked to see the radar. He answered that he didn't lock it in and he doesn't have to. So should I bother fighting it or should I just pay the fine.

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Fight it. Write down verbatim what was said between the two of you. Write down your direction of travel, amount of traffic, etc. etc.

...just to have the story straight in your head tonight versus trying to piece it back together later.

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you can fight it if you want but the cop doesn't have to "lock in" your speed on the radar for it to hold up. as long as he observed the speed on the radar that is all that matters. even if he did lock it in police do not have to let you see the actual radar on a traffic stop if they feel letting you get out of your vehicle could place him or you in danger.
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you can fight it if you want but the cop doesn't have to "lock in" your speed on the radar for it to hold up. as long as he observed the speed on the radar that is all that matters. even if he did lock it in police do not have to let you see the actual radar on a traffic stop if they feel letting you get out of your vehicle could place him or you in danger.
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Fight it. Write down verbatim what was said between the two of you. Write down your direction of travel, amount of traffic, etc. etc.

...just to have the story straight in your head tonight versus trying to piece it back together later.
Also where you and the cop were and any other vehicles in the area. Radar is know to pick up large object better than smaller (i.e. if there was a semi it may actually read that's speed instead of yours)

Laser needs to hit the exact same spot on the car to give an acurate reading. If the first beam hit the passenger area and the second hit the front bumper it would also give a false reading (faster in that case.)
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That's a big ticket. Get an attorney.

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you can fight it if you want but the cop doesn't have to "lock in" your speed on the radar for it to hold up. as long as he observed the speed on the radar that is all that matters. even if he did lock it in police do not have to let you see the actual radar on a traffic stop if they feel letting you get out of your vehicle could place him or you in danger.
IMO does suck, i think a citizen should be allowed to be verified what he is being charged with.

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If you fight, bring enough information to seed 'reasonable doubt' or get an attorney to do it for you.

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Well it's not reckless, but 30+ over is a mandatory court appearance...right?
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Of course you should fight every ticket you get. That's why they write so many, cuz they assume you'll puss out and just pay thru the mail.. revenue mang, its all about the revenue..
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Let me guess it was on 30.....nicely re-done 30....nice asphalt, two lanes in either direction...with a 35 mph limit.....might as well make I55 speed limit of 45! Cresst Hill and Joliet are police states....it's no uncommon for me to see 8 to 12 cruisers on 30...near 7. Lawyer up and fight it!

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Well it's not reckless, but 30+ over is a mandatory court appearance...right?
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Let me guess it was on 30.....nicely re-done 30....nice asphalt, two lanes in either direction...with a 35 mph limit.....might as well make I55 speed limit of 45! Cresst Hill and Joliet are police states....it's no uncommon for me to see 8 to 12 cruisers on 30...near 7. Lawyer up and fight it!
Right at the curve where it turns into weber. I pulled off the side street that runs by the police station and he was sitting in the first parking lot on the left. There isn't that much distance there and I have a slow ford taurus with the flex fuel motor.

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I just paid a lawyer and he only lowered my speed 3 miles under your better off pleading no contest with court supervision.I now think lawyers are misleading and a rip off.
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You don't need a lawyer. Just go in there and swear you weren't speeding. A lot of people think I am stupid to suggest that, but it has worked for me several times. Be prepared to ask the officer questions, etc. All you have to do is create some reasonable doubt.

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I just paid a lawyer and he only lowered my speed 3 miles under your better off pleading no contest with court supervision.I now think lawyers are misleading and a rip off.
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I wasen't impressed by the amount of time & effort my lawyer spent on me. I also wasen't happy with the outcome. Especially considering what I paid her. In hindsight, It probablly would have had the same outcome if I went on my own and said I was sorry and I wouldn't do it again. But I had a 100% clean record at the time

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You don't need a lawyer. Just go in there and swear you weren't speeding. A lot of people think I am stupid to suggest that, but it has worked for me several times. Be prepared to ask the officer questions, etc. All you have to do is create some reasonable doubt.
I have a good driving record (last ticket was in 99, last conviction in 96). I would go in with this record speaking for itself, and simply tell the court that an error was made (he radared the wrong car, ect). If you operate something at work (I operate remote control locomotives) bring in a good record from that. If you say something was in error, be prepaired to back it up with evidence. I have talked myself out of a few tickets this way. I had one guy try and write me a ticket for my tinted windows on the Neon. I showed him my eye surgens note oking the windows. Then he wanted to write me a ticket for no front plate. I HAVE a front plate on, and showed him this. He yelled at me about "tuner cars" driving dangerously. I informed him this car was bought of my mom, was missing a hubcap, and I was obeying every law. We all have a job to do, but when someone is wrong, they are wrong.
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Right of discovery is also a good thing. Basically means saying "show me what you got" to the DA.
I've gotten out of a ticket because they ignored my request... first court "Request for continuance due to District Attorney's failure to comply with Right of Discovery Request filed on... blah, blah, blah...." They ignored again, "Motion to dismiss due to DA's failure to comply for the second time... blah, blah, blah..."

Google it and see if you can find a generic one, if not let me know and I'll type one up.
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for all the tickets you have avoided Joe, this one doesn't surprise me



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