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What is this ticket for? (Pictures)

No idea what this ticket is for because the violation notice ripped off in the wind and it does not show up online yet.

Spoke with a CPD officer a few days later and he told me it was fine to park there. I was on lower South Water 1/2 block south of Wacker and just east of Michigan Ave.

Perfect spot for a bike if you ask me....

EDIT* I'm between the last meter and the DO NOT PARK ---> sign which is a good 20' from the fire hydrant
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No idea what this ticket is for because the violation notice ripped off in the wind and it does not show up online yet.

Spoke with a CPD officer a few days later and he told me it was fine to park there. I was on lower South Water 1/2 block south of Wacker and just east of Michigan Ave.

Perfect spot for a bike if you ask me....

EDIT* I'm between the last meter and the DO NOT PARK ---> sign which is a good 20' from the fire hydrant
If you're in a metered area and you're not using a meter like where you're at now, you're trying to go below the radar and got busted. To me it's a legitimate ticket. No meter - ticket.
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If you're in a metered area and you're not using a meter like where you're at now, you're trying to go below the radar and got busted. To me it's a legitimate ticket. No meter - ticket.
I'm not in a metered area (no meter to feed)...look at the pic and read what I wrote. Spot by spot meters regulate parking spots not areas. If there is a meter down the street but none where you are it does not create a no parking zone.

Do you get a lot of Chicago parking tickets in TX?

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Those are metered spots and you don't have a meter. A car isn't meant to fit there so they don't give a crap if a bike can.
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I'm not in a metered area (no meter to feed)...look at the pic and read what I wrote. Do you get a lot of Chicago parking tickets in TX?


With how much trouble it will be to go into court and fight it, its less of a hassle to just pay the thing. How much is a Chicago parking ticket?

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I'm not in a metered area (no meter to feed)...look at the pic and read what I wrote. Spot by spot meters regulate parking spots not areas. If there is a meter down the street but none where you are it does not create a no parking zone.

Do you get a lot of Chicago parking tickets in TX?
I typed area. Are you new to Chicago or something? This is common sense. You see meters you better have one too. I've partied all over this city and know what's what. C'mon. You got busted. Go pay up.

Also, I just left Chicago last year from spending half my life there. I know exactly where you're at. You're lucky they didn't tow you and take you down below.

Oh and if you want to be technical - do you see a sign that reads, "Motorcycle Parking" there?

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What is all this metered "area" BS everyone keeps talking about? Meters charge money for a spot. So what purpose does the DO NOT PARK ---> sign serve using your theory?

All I have to do is mail the pictures in with my explanation (assuming I receive something in the mail), and they will make the decision and alert me of it. I guess I'll post up once that process runs its course.

There is another spot a few blocks over that is metered and huge...there is always one care and 2 or 3 bikes and we never get tickets. And the damn CPD told me it was legit...we'll see.
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What is all this metered "area" BS everyone keeps talking about? Meters charge money for a spot. So what purpose does the DO NOT PARK ---> sign serve using your theory?

All I have to do is mail the pictures in with my explanation (assuming I receive something in the mail), and they will make the decision and alert me of it. I guess I'll post up once that process runs its course.

There is another spot a few blocks over that is metered and huge...there is always one care and 2 or 3 bikes and we never get tickets. And the damn CPD told me it was legit...we'll see.
Look, it's simple you are in a metered area because of meters being around. Just because you found about 3 feet of space between a meter and a sign (which is just enough space for an SUV to take up while still being within the meter which it's by) doesn't mean your motorcycle can take that space.

The argument you're going to use and sorry to say fail (but good fortune to ya) is something that can be used at a movie theater or any parking space. Motorcycles can take up a ton of parking spots. Doesn't mean that it's legal.

Again, I know your pain because I've parked and learned the hard way. Just trying to give you some 411 even though it's after the fact.

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I typed area.
Yes, and I don't understand why you typed "area". All meter areas have the do not park beyond signs that designate the last spot and are always next to the last spot...this setup is unique.

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No, 7 years of parking cars and bikes all over the city.

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This is common sense. You see meters you better have one too. I've partied all over this city and know what's what. C'mon. You got busted. Go pay up.
Are you kidding me? What did I get busted for? I was not in the way and I was not in a metered spot, and I was not in a marked no parking zone. CPD agreed with me!

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Also, I just left Chicago last year from spending half my life there. I know exactly where you're at. You're lucky they didn't tow you and take you down below.
"I'm lucky" - cause I deserve to be punished for parking out of the way where no car could have parked anyway.
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Yes, and I don't understand why you typed "area". All meter areas have the do not park beyond signs that designate the last spot and are always next to the last spot...this setup is unique.



No, 7 years of parking cars and bikes all over the city.



Are you kidding me? What did I get busted for? I was not in the way and I was not in a metered spot, and I was not in a marked no parking zone. CPD agreed with me!



"I'm lucky" - cause I deserve to be punished for parking out of the way where no car could have parked anyway.

Look, I'm not here to debate you on YOUR ticket. You posted a question so I answered. Really doesn't matter to me if you like it or not. Enjoy City Hall.

EDIT: Also, your smart remark about me being in Texas while you're in Chicago is why I asked if you're new to Chicago. I've been there much longer than 7 years.

Hope you enjoy that pride of yours with the feathers of the crow you're probably going to have to eat.
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yeah, don't post questions about tickets if you can't take a little razzing. That's what we're about. If you cant' give a fellow biker some crap (its called schadenfreude, look it up) then whats the point?

Anyhow, its friday. Its sunny out. Its warm out. go ride your bike and chalk that ticket up to the city experience.

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Eitherway, I'll find out after I pay 37 cents to challenge the ticket - depending on what it is actually for and how much it is - by MAIL.
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yeah, don't post questions about tickets if you can't take a little razzing. That's what we're about. If you cant' give a fellow biker some crap (its called schadenfreude, look it up) then whats the point?

Anyhow, its friday. Its sunny out. Its warm out. go ride your bike and chalk that ticket up to the city experience.

I'm all for it, my man. Did I cry or whine (ok, maybe a lil about the TICKET) about anything anyone said. No, I just disagreed with their interpretation.

Yeah, my bike is parked downtown now, sharing a huge stand-alone metered spot with a car, a bike, and two mopeds.........I'm out.
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Eitherway, I'll find out after I pay 37 cents to challenge the ticket - depending on what it is actually for and how much it is - by MAIL.
one if you challenge it your gonna lose and pay it anyways. two wait and see if the ticket ever gets logged in. I have had tickets from chicago that have never been logged and never had a notice sent to my house.
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In any event, I don't think anyone will really argue with you for disputing the ticket. I've lived in Chicago since I could drive and have been issued only 3 parking tickets that whole time. I contested all 3 of them and in every case they were dropped. Pictures like you have are necessary. I'd even go back and get a better one of the bike and the meter and the sign but make sure you can read the sign so turn off your headlight.

As for whatever everyone else is saying here this is my rule of thumb: If it looks too good to be true then it 100% is and you'll get burned. ESPECIALLY in this area. Tourist Central. Maybe you might get away with it in the neighborhoods but not there. No Way.

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You you should really just park your bike on the sidewalk.

I'm joking, but have you ever noticed mopeds/scooters, get away with parking their bikes on the sidewalk (as long as there is a "bikeracK" present) all the time, but the minute a sportbike does the same thing, it's somehow completely different. I realize a motorcylcle is bigger, than a moped/scooter, but they're both essentially motorized vechicles.

I work downtown and I see it all of the time, and just amazes me.
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See the thing is, I don't really care about THIS particular ticket, I just want to know if motorcycles and mopeds can park there, and if not, why. The entrance to the building I work in is 20 feet from this spot and this spot is covered by the road overhead.

I ride to work rain or shine so the legality of this spot is important to me. I see no reason why bikes should not be able to park there and I'm not the type to accept something for no good reason.

If not for the fact that I don't know what the ticket was written for and that the cop I spoke with told me the spot was legit, I would have just planned on paying the thing online. So I really just have to wait and see if it shows up online or if they mail me something....
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Sounds like you should talk to the ABATE guy who was posting here last week. He's talking to the city about motorcycle parking and looking for people to represent bikers at these meetings.

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I work at the Hyatt that's above that area, sometimes they ticket bikes that park in those stops, sometimes not. I got a ticket for parking my motorcycle at the bicycle rack, go figure.

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@ U-dog and Jim.

Loki is right, you're squeezing your bike into a spot meant for a car. The meter is there for the area, and it doesn't matter if you can fit your bike in there or not while a car is there.

And just because you've parked in other spots like that and haven't received a ticket does not mean you won't receive one in the future.

While I'd like to see the city be more lenient toward motorcycles and parking, you still got the ticket so suck it up and pay it.

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You you should really just park your bike on the sidewalk.

I'm joking, but have you ever noticed mopeds/scooters, get away with parking their bikes on the sidewalk (as long as there is a "bikeracK" present) all the time, but the minute a sportbike does the same thing, it's somehow completely different. I realize a motorcylcle is bigger, than a moped/scooter, but they're both essentially motorized vechicles.

I work downtown and I see it all of the time, and just amazes me.
There is a law that allows scooters (there is a cc limit) to park on sidewalks. I don't even think there needs to be a bike rack present.

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one if you challenge it your gonna lose and pay it anyways. two wait and see if the ticket ever gets logged in. I have had tickets from chicago that have never been logged and never had a notice sent to my house.
+1 on the ticket and it never being logged. Though it didn't have anything to do with a vehicle, but rather drinking in public
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Challenge it, but do it solely based on the "fact" that you pulled up and paid the meter. Tell them you were there first and then that truck pulled in behind you.

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Carefull if ya challange - It can go into "past Due" which will double the fine - The City does what the City wants man and unless you are contributing millions to the Mayors Campaign Fund, it will never change fer ya

Bottom line is that it will always be the call of the ticketer and the Dept of Rev contacts a % of that out as per the Mayors Office of Work Force Development - If the ticketer is new and wants to impress the Dept, they will ticket everything - If the beat is being maned by a vet, most likely you would have been fine - You may get away with a few but you will never get away with them all and there is nothing you can try and pull on the City that they have not already seen - CPD has very little to do with parking tickets

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