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post #1 of 63 (permalink) Old 05-14-2007, 07:12 AM Thread Starter
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Ticket for visor being up

On saturday I was pulled over and ticketed 75$ for having no eye protection in the city of Algonquin. I was wearing all my gear and my helmet and had momentarilly put my visor up and immediately was pulled over and ticketed no questiosn asked(not speeding or anything else wrong I might add). I was wondering if anyone else had ever been ticketed for this and how did you deal with it. I was given the envelope with the ticket and have option for traffic school, but I was curious if this would be a moving violation and would it effect my insurance. I am goign to call my insurance guy later today but just thought I would ask for any advise. I was breaking the law by having no eye protection under my visor but should I just go to court and try and get out of it. Just was looking for some tips or advise if anybody had any experience with getting one of these tickets which I might add is bull*@!* with all the other marvelous driving I witness all around this area on a daily basis.

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Algonquin is getting the nasty reputation of no-tolerance of any motor laws being broken.

I would think since this is NOT a moving violation that the insurance wont be bothered, but that depends on the insurance...


Also, this is why I wear sunglasses/clear lens glasses on under my helmet at all times...

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Were you moving or at a stoplight? I often raise my visor while I am at a stoplight but move it back down before I start moving again.

I hate wearing glasses under my helmet. That's why I have both a tinted and a clear visor.
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Sounds like a bunch of BS to me....
Can't believe cop would pull you over for that, Po-Po must not have too much to do out in Algonquin

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I flipped it up at a stop sign to let some fresh air in b/c i was sweating, made my turn with it up and immediatley rolled past a cop with it up and got yanked for it.

And it is a moving violation according to the cop and somebody else I talked to who got one couple years ago in Cary. I am goign to check with insurance man today just to be sure about insurance rates.

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Do the supervision for the ticket and your insurance company will never see it.
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Sounds about right for Algonquin. Giving a ticket for that is BS, who the hell rides with the visor up on a helmet and no glasses anyways? It's nearly impossible once you get up over 25-30mph, as I've forgotten to flip it down before a few times when venting at stop lights, but remember as soon as I started going again.

If he wasn't a complete dick he should have just given verbal warning...your wearing a helmet for crying out loud.

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It was in a 25mph zone and i was really hot so I flipped it up to get some cool breeze in for just a few seconds and bang.



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Sounds about right for Algonquin. Giving a ticket for that is BS, who the hell rides with the visor up on a helmet and no glasses anyways? It's nearly impossible once you get up over 25-30mph, as I've forgotten to flip it down before a few times when venting at stop lights, but remember as soon as I started going again.

If he wasn't a complete dick he should have just given verbal warning...your wearing a helmet for crying out loud.
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you're screwed. Algonquin/LITH has been doing shit like that for the last few years due to compaints and the speed drop on certain residential streets down to 25mph

there was a thread from last season telling people to be careful in those burbs because LEO was instructed to crackdown on motorcyclists but seeing as how you only have 9 posts you probably weren't around to see that - doh!
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Its not just Algonquin where you will get pulled over for this. Pay the ticket, do the traffic school or get supervision to keep it off your record
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Talk to GeeWiz. It happened to him last year in naperville.

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It happens, sorry you forgot to put your visor down. Pay the ticket, get supervision, and be more careful next time. Cops all over the burbs are ticketing for this law.

And shadrach, the law in IL is for eye protection, not helmets.

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It happens, sorry you forgot to put your visor down. Pay the ticket, get supervision, and be more careful next time. Cops all over the burbs are ticketing for this law.

And shadrach, the law in IL is for eye protection, not helmets.
I understand the law....but ticketing for the visor is stupid, IMO. Like I stated before who the heck can ride on the street without eye protection? My eyes tear up after 25-30mph if the visor is left up.

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I understand the law....but ticketing for the visor is stupid, IMO. Like I stated before who the heck can ride on the street without eye protection? My eyes tear up after 25-30mph if the visor is left up.

I can't ride with mine up either, my eyes tear up quickly, but I don't even try. Because of the bad rap sportbike riders get due to few bad eggs the police often will get a rider for the smallest infraction.

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Why on earth would you call your INSURANCE company and TELL them you have had a MOVING VIOLATION >>>> ?????


Dude.... don't call your insurance company.


It's a moving violation..... Even if he *should* have cut you some slack, he obviosly didn't.

Go to traffic school or lawyer up and go to court, get it off your record.


Do NOT inform your insurance guy.


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I knew I was just going to have to suck it up on this one and take the supervision due to the area and the rep on the cops there, but was looking for suggestions on either going to court or just pay a bit more and take the traffic class. Was looking to see if anybody had any experience with going to court for this ticket, and what the outcome may have been. Any advise on taking a ticket to court may also be helpful b/c it has been 10 yrs since I have gone into court for a traffic ticket.

It is wierd feeling b/c I know i was not complying with law at that moment but pulling me over and writing a ticket with no questions asked seemed a bit harsh, even for that area which I knew was an almost zero tolerance for speeding and stop signs which I was not at all doing. Oh well lesson learned the hard way i guess.

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You make a very good point!!

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Why on earth would you call your INSURANCE company and TELL them you have had a MOVING VIOLATION >>>> ?????


Dude.... don't call your insurance company.


It's a moving violation..... Even if he *should* have cut you some slack, he obviosly didn't.

Go to traffic school or lawyer up and go to court, get it off your record.


Do NOT inform your insurance guy.


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I hear about someone getting tagged for this every couple of years. Never open the lid all the way, especially while moving.

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Anotherbend just got tagged for this, thats why I always raise the visor to eyelevel but keeps it wide enough,

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Every once and a while their is an advantage to living in Chicago . We would never be pulled over for something like that in Chicago. That is a BS ticket because of what Shadrach said and because there are so many other riders without helmets. I'd deem it more important for a rider to have a helmet than glasses. I would fight that in court and bring my helmet with visor in to court with me.

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Fight that ticket!!!

Don't listen to these fools about just paying it. It's a 100% bullshit ticket. You were wearing eye protection as part of the helmet and I've heard before you can beat that ticket because you have a windshield as well (I know its small but I've heard people using it in court). I hope you told that cop to F off after he handed you the ticket. I know I would of.

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I got a ticket for the same thing in WI a couple years ago. I just paid the $75 ticket.

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What friggin bull shit.

You don't have to wear a helmet and yet you can get a ticket for not having eye protection.

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I would go to court if I were you. Don't even bother with a lawyer since its not a major infraction. Just tell the judge that your visor fogged up really bad when you stopped and you flipped it up to let some air in. A buddy of mine did the same and got it dismissed.


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I came to a conclusion and agree with the last couple of posts in that I am going to go to court with the helmet and try and get it thrown out, and if not get supervision. We shall see what happens. How does fighting a ticket in court work? Havent been to traffic court in ten years and my lawyer did all the talking then and got the ticket dismissed.
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I got one in Liertyville last year, I went to court, told the judge that it wasnt all the way open and that while haunched over on the bike, it was covering my line of site (Even demonstrated with my helmet) - He dismissed it.

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I don't understand why people keep bringing up the fact he was wearing a helmet. That is irrevelent. The law requires eye protection, not a helmet.

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I brought it up not because I was arguing the validity of the law, just the stupidity of it.

Common sense tells me if a rider is wearing a helmet and leaves the visor up it was done by accident, yet it's perfectly legal to ride around with a helmet strapped to the side of the bike as long as they have at least some crappy glasses on.

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