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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 11-13-2007, 04:36 PM Thread Starter
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Additional to Muskrat's Post...

Well, as you all read previously the fine structures for DuPage County have obviously increased. What I would like to do is simply add to what Muskrat has already advised us of.

For years, DuPage County has been one of the lowest fine structures in the State. We all know that a Seat Belt ticket is $55 and a speeding ticket for 0 - 20mph over is $75.00. It was in the court fees where the fines differed drastically.
What I am going to do is outline what the Illinois General Assembly proposes to Illinois Courtrooms as fine structures for 2008. BUT, and please note, these fines are already active in some courtrooms throughout the State. Where they are not currently active is through the mail where you can request supervision without appearing in court - beginning in Jan. 2008, you will not or most likely not have this option.

What I will list is your proposed/current minimum fine with court supervision. These are not the same costs if you get convicted of the offense. Some of the more common traffic offenses and fines are as follows:

SPEEDING: 0 - 20mph over ****************** $264.00
SEAT BELT ****************************** $180.00 to 251.00
SUSPENDED REGISTRATION FOR NO INSURANCE *** $1,237.00
DISOBEY POLICE OFC or PASS SCHOOL BUS ****** $334.00
SPEEDING IN A SCHOOL ZONE **************** $322.00
SPEEDING IN A CONSTRUCTION ZONE ********** $462.00
VIOLATION OF RAILROAD CROSSING *********** $510.00

I am sure myself or one of the other police officers on the board will update or include other counties if possible. Safe driving.

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Damn those are getting rediculous. now they would get rid of all the driving record stuff and just have high fines I would be happy. With lawyers to protect my record and fines combined I've spent over 2 grand this year.




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Wow. Good info to be aware of. I guess I better slow down.

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You've got to be kidding. It is not possible that the fine are going up by 352%.
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Ouch. I'm glad I never speed or do anything wrong on the road...

I think a radar dectector is in order for the holidays. Heck, if I was smart I should get one for my speed demon wife. She gets tagged 3 times for every time I get hit.

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I got $150 fine for flashing my lights to try and tell the idiot in front of me that his signal was on for the past half mile. Screw helping people. Ticket was for having osculating/flashing lights (worded meaning if they are operating or not.)

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You've got to be kidding. It is not possible that the fine are going up by 352%.
The traffic fine has not gone up. A low mph speeding ticket is still $75.00 bond (for now). The court costs are what have increased.

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Traffic court today.... Violation was for No Front License Plate>>>>>>


Court Fine plus court costs>




$255.00

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Traffic court today.... Violation was for No Front License Plate>>>>>>


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What BS...just angers me to no end

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Holy crap.

Legalized extortion.
Arch I believe the correct term is "Highway Robbery"


Extortion, outwresting, or exaction is a criminal offense, which occurs when a person either unlawfully obtains money, property or services from another through coercion or intimidation or threatens one with physical or reputational harm unless they are paid money or property. Refraining from doing harm is sometimes euphemistically called protection. Extortion is commonly practiced by organized crime groups. The actual obtainment of money or property is not required to commit the offense. Making a threat of violence or a lawsuit which refers to a requirement of a payment of money or property to halt future violence or lawsuit is sufficient to commit the offense. The four simple words "pay up or else" are sufficient to constitute the crime of extortion.[citation needed] An extortionate threat made to another in jest is still extortion.[citation needed] Exaction refers not only to extortion or the unlawful demanding and obtaining of something through force,[1] additionally, exact in its formal definition means the infliction of something such as pain and suffering or to make somebody endure something unpleasant.[2]


In the United States, extortion may also be committed as a federal crime across a computer system, phone, by mail or in using any instrument of "interstate commerce". Extortion requires that the individual sent the message "willingly" and "knowingly" as elements of the crime. The message only has to be sent (but does not have to reach the intended recipient) to commit the crime of extortion.

Extortion is distinguished from blackmail. In blackmail, the blackmailer threatens to do something which would be legal or normally allowed.

Extortion is distinguished from robbery. In "strong arm" robbery, the offender takes goods from the victim with use of immediate force. In "robbery" goods are taken or an attempt is made to take the goods against the will of anotherówith or without force. A bank robbery or extortion of a bank can be committed by a letter handed by the criminal to the teller. In extortion, the victim is threatened to hand over goods, or else damage to their reputation or other harm or violence against them may occur. Under federal law extortion can be committed with or without the use of force and with or without the use of a weapon. A key difference is that extortion always involves a written or verbal threat whereas robbery can occur without any verbal or written threat (refer to U.S.C. 875 and U.S.C. 876).

The term extortion is often used metaphorically to refer to usury or to price-gouging, though neither is legally considered extortion. It is also often used loosely to refer to everyday situations where one person feels indebted against their will, to another, in order to receive an essential service or avoid legal consequences. For example, certain lawsuits, fees for services such as banking, automobile insurance, gasoline prices, and even taxation, have all been labeled "extortion" by people with various social or political beliefs.

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Traffic court today.... Violation was for No Front License Plate>>>>>>


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WTF? I had one of those this year. It isn't a moving violation. It is some sort of an equipment fine. I want to say as a first offence it was $50-75 and that was from Barrington PD and they are as bad as they come. I was told that a repeat gets expensive fast so I put it on.

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Where did you get the ticket so I know to avoid there?

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What part of 'state law' don't you agree with? All vehicles have to have a front license plate (motorcycles excepted, of course).

Sorry, but the high costs of traffic fines and such is a GOOD thing in my book. There's too many idiots out there and if this makes them think twice, then I'm a happy camper.

Mind you, I've had my share of run-ins with cops and stuff, but the fact is, our fees for traffic offenses are too low.

Don't like it? Talk to your state legislator and get involved with the election process.

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So did the guy with the license plate fine plead not guilty? Or are you just getting charged court costs no matter what now?
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What part of 'state law' don't you agree with? All vehicles have to have a front license plate (motorcycles excepted, of course).

Sorry, but the high costs of traffic fines and such is a GOOD thing in my book. There's too many idiots out there and if this makes them think twice, then I'm a happy camper.

Mind you, I've had my share of run-ins with cops and stuff, but the fact is, our fees for traffic offenses are too low.

Don't like it? Talk to your state legislator and get involved with the election process.

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Instead of giving tickets for something as moronic as no front license plate...why doesn't the state do something useful...like making it a criminal act to text message will driving, reading while driving, making lane changes without signaling intent...shall I go on?? The expressways, toll roads are DESIGNED for speeds way above 55. I'll agree with you on talking to your state legislator and getting involved with the election process, but civil disobedience always goes a long way too...for example...anyone drive 55 on 355 today?

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What part of 'state law' don't you agree with? All vehicles have to have a front license plate (motorcycles excepted, of course).

Sorry, but the high costs of traffic fines and such is a GOOD thing in my book. There's too many idiots out there and if this makes them think twice, then I'm a happy camper.

Mind you, I've had my share of run-ins with cops and stuff, but the fact is, our fees for traffic offenses are too low.

Don't like it? Talk to your state legislator and get involved with the election process.

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yeah..., I respectfully disagree... You want to get rid of idiots, try better education or birth control.

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WTF? I had one of those this year. It isn't a moving violation. It is some sort of an equipment fine. I want to say as a first offence it was $50-75 and that was from Barrington PD and they are as bad as they come. I was told that a repeat gets expensive fast so I put it on.
This is based on new legislation and court fines going up. The ticket itself is still a $55.00 offense. The court fines are what have been raised. By Jan. 2008, all jurisdictions in Illinois will be paying similar amounts.

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In DuPage County, if you get a single traffic citation then you do not have to go to court, you can pay the fine by mail or internet. There are some single citation exceptions to this such as School Zone Speed, Passing School Bus. However, if you do not pay the fine within about 2 weeks of receiving the citation, then the Circuit Clerks Office deems that you would like a court appearance and will notify you by mail of such. Some people end up going to court simply bc they forgot to pay the ticket in time. So it kinda sucks that if they remembered to pay the $75 then wouldnt have had to pay the $200+ fee bc they then had to go to court.

If you receive more than one citation, like speeding and no insurance or a stop sign and no DL on person, then it's court deemed an automatic court appearance. Even if you bring your insurance car or DL and get that ticket dropped then you still have to pay court costs for the other ticket.

When I was at traffic court the other day, even the officer's had their jaws dropped when he heard some of the fines people were being handed by the judge and we were like WTF?!?!
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WTF? I had one of those this year. It isn't a moving violation. It is some sort of an equipment fine. I want to say as a first offence it was $50-75 and that was from Barrington PD and they are as bad as they come. I was told that a repeat gets expensive fast so I put it on.
Some towns are writing "Village Citations" for equipment and some select registration violations. I know for my town it's a $35 fine versus the $75 fine that would be if a regular Illinois Traffic Citation was written. For the Village tickets, also referred to as compliance tickets by some depts, they do not go on your driving record and your driver's license isn't taken as a form of bond. My town also allows up to write these village tickets for seatbelt violations as well.
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