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post #1 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-09-2008, 12:02 AM Thread Starter
 
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Wisconsin State Police again

I'll begin by saying we got pulled over by Illinois state police 20 miles from the house for an illegally mounted plate. They wrote us warnings Friday morning.

This afternoon after the AMA races we leave Road America and we were riding into Plymouth. Wis. State Police decide to pull us over and I was thinking it was because of the plate again. The reasoning was that my rear tire was unsafe and lacked the minimum 2/32 tread. After questioning him, he then said my plate was mounted illegally. WTF? The plate on my 600RR is legal, my buddy's GSXR is not though.


He ended up writing me 2 warnings, one for the tire and one for the plate on my 600 RR? If you ask me it's bullshit. He just pulled us over because we were on sport bikes and we looked at him when we rode by.


Look at my tire, it's close but I believe I have enough rubber there. The plate is mounted behind my rear axle and has a slight angle but not much. If 90 degrees is a corner, my plate is at 100-110 degrees. If your picky about that your state, town, or county has got to hurting for money or something to be pulling people over for reasons of that sort.




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pulled over for an unsafe rear... ummm on laser telescope vision or something? how do you gage tread depth on a moving bike

def looks like less than 2/32 though

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That was 1 of my many questions which were given to the officer. I even asked him to go grab his tape measure.
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Maybe he pulled you over because of the flashy graphics on the bike and helmet. Be glad you got a warning and not a ticket.
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2/32nds? why not specify 1/16th? Seems fishy
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i suspect they were just cracking down on sport bikes because of the actions of a few who cannot control themselves and think they can ride like rossi on the streets after watching a race

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that tire is shot dood.
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Sport bike = harassment and tickets.

Personally they should change the slogan from

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I got pulled over on my DR last week. Usually cops totally ignore me on a bike.

...but, no ticket, no care.

Technically your rear tire is legal 2/32's on any two points.

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But technically they can't pull you over for that. No WAY could he see that while you are riding. That's just plain harassment.

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Dude if cops are giving you warnings for lack of tread it's time to invest in a new tire. Do yourself a favor.

And why are people surprised when the get pulled over for messing with a plate? Why give a cop an excuse to pull you over and conduct a visual inspection?

Manufacturers work with the DOTs to ensure that this stuff is put on legally. If you change it so that it looks cooler then you are walking a line. Don't you think that if the manufacturer could make it look more cool they would?

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Don't you think that if the manufacturer could make it look more cool they would?
ummm.... have you seen the new cbr1000 ?
most OEMs wouldn't know cool if it ninja kicked them in the cocksucker
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Dude if cops are giving you warnings for lack of tread it's time to invest in a new tire. Do yourself a favor.

And why are people surprised when the get pulled over for messing with a plate? Why give a cop an excuse to pull you over and conduct a visual inspection?

Manufacturers work with the DOTs to ensure that this stuff is put on legally. If you change it so that it looks cooler then you are walking a line. Don't you think that if the manufacturer could make it look more cool they would?
huh... does it say somewhere in Dot that rear fenders must contain 40 lbs of plastic. A slight exageration but some of these things are huge. A vertical mounted plate just below or around the rear break light should surfice. It should be lit as well.

Sounds like this cop was nosing around for other real tickets to right, consumption of alcohol, no M certification, ect...
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huh... does it say somewhere in Dot that rear fenders must contain 40 lbs of plastic. A slight exageration but some of these things are huge.
I totally understand why people get rid of them. I'm just saying don't be surprised if you get pulled over for altering the OEM mount. If you assume you are going to get pulled over then why give them a reason in the 1st place?

Anyway, I don't think it's the weight you are worried about. Seriously, it won't impact any performance and if you are that worried about it shaving weight from the rider is probably the lowest hanging fruit.

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I totally understand why people get rid of them. I'm just saying don't be surprised if you get pulled over for altering the OEM mount. If you assume you are going to get pulled over then why give them a reason in the 1st place?

Anyway, I don't think it's the weight you are worried about. Seriously, it won't impact any performance and if you are that worried about it shaving weight from the rider is probably the lowest hanging fruit.

No, they are just fugley.... they seem to ge getting worse over the years. I never got pulled over for my plate and always ditched the OEM fender kit. I also did not severely angle my plate and kept it under the rear tail light.
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Sounds like this cop was nosing around for other real tickets to right, consumption of alcohol, no M certification, ect...

Exactly. I know my tire is shot, but it does have the minimum depth in 90% of the tire. He pulled us over, walked around for a few minutes then said he pulled us over because of the tire. That's just harrassing us and trying to find something good or get us to run or something. Stupid.



If he wrote me a ticket I would have called Grasshopper and had him bring me a take-off from the track with the stand. We would have changed it there and then I would have taken another picture of the tire and got it thrown out
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This shit never happens if you have a CLSB sticker on your helmet and on the bike. They know better!!
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Oh no, you didn't.

Regarding what you said to the trooper about telling him to get his tape measure. I really doubt you said that. If you turned into a [email protected]$$, you'd be whining about getting a ticket! You got a warning because you played the game and were polite. Eh? Everyone knows you don't get "warnings" when being a wise guy with a cop!
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It is odvious you dont know Jim. I met him once and can see him saying that. Btw Jim, pm me if you need some very good used tires.
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Regarding what you said to the trooper about telling him to get his tape measure. I really doubt you said that. If you turned into a [email protected]$$, you'd be whining about getting a ticket! You got a warning because you played the game and were polite. Eh? Everyone knows you don't get "warnings" when being a wise guy with a cop!
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Regarding what you said to the trooper about telling him to get his tape measure. I really doubt you said that. If you turned into a [email protected]$$, you'd be whining about getting a ticket! You got a warning because you played the game and were polite. Eh? Everyone knows you don't get "warnings" when being a wise guy with a cop!
He got a warning because it was BS that was sure loser if Jim had taken it to court. The Cop knew it, and Jim knew it. I don't doubt he said it one bit. If you'd known him, you'd understand.

Dickheads like that give the whole profession a bad name. Lying pieces of shit. I had a similar incident where a jackass cop turned stopped dead in the middle of Highland Ave in Lombard to let me pass him once the light turned green (stopped at the intersection) so that he could then pull me over. I never even got near the speed limit. He then gave some bullshit about my plate numbers "coming up funny in the system," as the excuse for the stop. Obviously a lie, since he never was able to see the plate until well after it was clear he intended to stop me.

Power corrupts.

Jim, sue the police department and the officer. Seriously. Dead freakin serious. There's a federal 1983 claim there. This BS stop is very likely a violation of your civil rights. Under the constitution, cops CANNOT stop you with no good reason, and because this idiot was dumb enough to use the tire tread depth as an excuse, thats not even a plausible one.

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Regarding what you said to the trooper about telling him to get his tape measure. I really doubt you said that. If you turned into a [email protected]$$, you'd be whining about getting a ticket! You got a warning because you played the game and were polite. Eh? Everyone knows you don't get "warnings" when being a wise guy with a cop!
I was a total a-hole to a cop one-time because he was following me to closely...I brake checked him, he pulled me over...I got in a shouting match with him about following a bike too closely...he ran my DL/insurance...I was all legal...got off w/ a warning. I wouldn't recommend it, in most instances what I said/did will get you a ticket at a minimum. But sometimes you can be an ass and get away with it.

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Regarding what you said to the trooper about telling him to get his tape measure. I really doubt you said that. If you turned into a [email protected]$$, you'd be whining about getting a ticket! You got a warning because you played the game and were polite. Eh? Everyone knows you don't get "warnings" when being a wise guy with a cop!


Sorry to Nep rep you, but I do not lie and hate it when people suggest that. Yes I did say that to him and yes I was a smart ass. I took pictures so if he was going to write me a ticket it would not hold up. Which is probably why he came back and wrote a warning. I did nothing wrong, so that put me in pissed off/smart ass mode.




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I was a total a-hole to a cop one-time because he was following me to closely...I brake checked him, he pulled me over...I got in a shouting match with him about following a bike too closely...he ran my DL/insurance...I was all legal...got off w/ a warning. I wouldn't recommend it, in most instances what I said/did will get you a ticket at a minimum. But sometimes you can be an ass and get away with it.






I've done that before too, except I got the cop to pull over. I walked back to him and frickin' yelled right in his face>>>"Do you know how f**king uncomfortable it is to have assholes like you ride your ass when your on a bike?" He said no, I've never ridden one, and then pulled off like a tough guy spinning the tires.


I respect officers by pulling over right away, switching lanes when they are on the shoulder, I am polite when I am wrong, and accept the punishment. But when they are the prick and have no reasoning, I frickin hate them with a pashion.
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