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Red light cameras on GPS

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I have a Garmin brand GPS unit with all Chicagoland Red Light Cameras loaded as Points of Interest. When I'm 1,500ft away from the intersection, I get and alert and a beeping sound. It comes in pretty handy and helps me to remember which intersections to watch for.

You can download the file from here:
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You might have to pay $5 for it unless you get a certain number of posts. I'm pretty sure you can use other GPS brands with this file, you'll have to look on the website for more info.

<- is how I feel about such revenue generating BS like this.

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Be fair, if you are regular posting member in there forums (only need one post a week for 3 weeks) you can download it for free. That's a good site with good info and lots of geed free downloads.

The red light camera notifications is a reason alone to get gps. they are great.

Here is the file for you guys to use until you make enough posts to download for free.

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I don't understand the importance of this. Are you planning on running red lights?

Speed cameras are a different story.....

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My bike feels like it's missing something when the gps is not attached. I look down expecting to see it when trying to think of alternate routes to go (to avoid traffic, construction, whatever).

I think some can be set up to make an alert of some point when you approach a redlight/speed camera. Which btw, I don't think we have any speed cameras out here??
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I don't understand the importance of this. Are you planning on running red lights?

Speed cameras are a different story.....
Are you planning on speeding? Last time I checked, that's illegal as well.

Come on dude, I'm just trying to help people out.

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Are you planning on speeding? Last time I checked, that's illegal as well.

Come on dude, I'm just trying to help people out.
totally understand. I'm not saying that either one of them is right. but blowing a red light is excessively dangerous. I saw some jack off in a minivan do it yesterday mid day at larkin/weber and rt 30 in joliet. just plain went straight through a full on red light. mine had been well green for a long time.

and excessively speeding is one thing, but keeping up with traffic that's going 10-15 mph over posted is much safer than going the speed limit in that situation.

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I'm an Eagle Scout. I don't speed, do drugs, drink alcohol, have pre-marital sex, destroy the environment, or run red lights. I'm perfect!
wth I have seen you do most of those. Tenderfoot
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I don't understand the importance of this. Are you planning on running red lights?

Speed cameras are a different story.....

Ok, this is easy to answer. Red light cameras are in places where they have a high frequency of people running red lights. So, wouldn't you want to be warned that you are in a dangerous area? This might make you more attentive so you don't get hit by that red light runner.

They have signs, but you might miss the sign. IMHO, it would be nice to know so I am extra cautious at that particular intersection.

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totally understand. I'm not saying that either one of them is right. but blowing a red light is excessively dangerous. I saw some jack off in a minivan do it yesterday mid day at larkin/weber and rt 30 in joliet. just plain went straight through a full on red light. mine had been well green for a long time.

and excessively speeding is one thing, but keeping up with traffic that's going 10-15 mph over posted is much safer than going the speed limit in that situation.
Theres two situations here which need to be addressed. The first is the law states to turn right you must come to a full and complete stop behind the line. If the dipshit in the lane next to you is too far forward, to be completely complient you need to stop at the line, creep forward, look, then turn. In the case of bikes, what constitutes a stop? I can very easily bring the bike to a stop, then go without my feet touching the ground, but will the asshole on the other end of the camera agree that I stopped completely?

The second situation are stuck lights. I have a couple in my area where the light refuses to change ~5% of the time unless a car is around. At those lights I know within seconds if the light is going to change, so why would I wait a minute for the camera footage to show that I was in the right to cross on red? Will the asshole on the other end of the camera agree I waited long enough even after a minute?
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The second situation are stuck lights. I have a couple in my area where the light refuses to change ~5% of the time unless a car is around. At those lights I know within seconds if the light is going to change, so why would I wait a minute for the camera footage to show that I was in the right to cross on red? Will the asshole on the other end of the camera agree I waited long enough even after a minute?
this happens to me all the time. its so bad at some lights that the oncoming traffic will get a green light and i'll be stuck at red. as soon as no one is turning left in front of me i take off. i was actually told by my msf instructor that if it doesn't "sense" ur bike then the traffic light is not funtioning correctly and therefore you are allowed by law to go through it.

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Ok, this is easy to answer. Red light cameras are in places where they have a high frequency of people running red lights. So, wouldn't you want to be warned that you are in a dangerous area? This might make you more attentive so you don't get hit by that red light runner.

They have signs, but you might miss the sign. IMHO, it would be nice to know so I am extra cautious at that particular intersection.
interesting perspective and I hadn't thought of that. I don't think that was the initial intention for whoever designed the file that you could add to your gps, but as a rider, it's definitely something to think about.

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Theres two situations here which need to be addressed. The first is the law states to turn right you must come to a full and complete stop behind the line.
and I see it daily where it looks to me that the other drivers are planning to run the light and or stop sign to make a right hand turn unless they notice that someone is coming and then they may (or may not) stop. It's very easy to notice based on the speed with which they approach the intersection.

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The second situation are stuck lights. I have a couple in my area where the light refuses to change ~5% of the time unless a car is around. At those lights I know within seconds if the light is going to change, so why would I wait a minute for the camera footage to show that I was in the right to cross on red? Will the asshole on the other end of the camera agree I waited long enough even after a minute?
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this happens to me all the time. its so bad at some lights that the oncoming traffic will get a green light and i'll be stuck at red. as soon as no one is turning left in front of me i take off. i was actually told by my msf instructor that if it doesn't "sense" ur bike then the traffic light is not funtioning correctly and therefore you are allowed by law to go through it.
I just found out about this trick recently. I had been pulling up to the middle of the sensor square thinking that being centered on that mark would give the best reading of being at the light waiting for it to change. However that is incorrect. Ideally you want to be on top of or very near to one of the lines of the sensor box that is parallel to the direction that you are going. I've had that successfully work numerous times. try it out.

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Electricomagnetic sensors... if they are obstructed or faulty or not sensitive enough, your vehicle won't trigger it.
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I just found out about this trick recently. I had been pulling up to the middle of the sensor square thinking that being centered on that mark would give the best reading of being at the light waiting for it to change. However that is incorrect. Ideally you want to be on top of or very near to one of the lines of the sensor box that is parallel to the direction that you are going. I've had that successfully work numerous times. try it out.
yeah i actually knew that, i always do that but still they don't pick up my bike. i think its that my bike is so light. technically they shoud be set off by a shovel being layed across the box at the minimum so my bike should trigger it if its not faulty.

question though, which tire bears more weight the front or back?? i can usually only get one wheel in there at a time.

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A full stop on a bike is when you put your foot down.

If the light won't change and you go, you risk a ticket. Report the light to idot or local and they will fix it (it may require your help) but they will fix it.

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i think its that my bike is so light.

question though, which tire bears more weight the front or back?? i can usually only get one wheel in there at a time.


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couldn't the sesitivity be off so that it will pick up more weight but not something as light as a bike??

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Your bike has a dry weight of about 450 pounds, that is not considered light.
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Your bike has a dry weight of about 450 pounds, that is not considered light.
and with me on it about 700, but thats still way less than a car, i meant lighter than a car lol...jeez


and u still didn't answer my question, which wheel bares more of the load? or is it equal?

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and with me on it about 700, but thats still way less than a car, i meant lighter than a car lol...jeez


and u still didn't answer my question, which wheel bares more of the load? or is it equal?
Why does weight matter?

Jeez, you didn't read my response, they are electromagnetic sensors.
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yeah i actually knew that, i always do that but still they don't pick up my bike. i think its that my bike is so light. technically they shoud be set off by a shovel being layed across the box at the minimum so my bike should trigger it if its not faulty.

question though, which tire bears more weight the front or back?? i can usually only get one wheel in there at a time.
you shouldn't be in the box but on the line that you can see in the road. you should be able to get both tires on the line at the same time. or real close. but the point he is making is that it doesn't sense weight. it's not a scale. it's a sensor that senses metal. which is another part of the problem since the majority of our bikes are aluminum....

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you shouldn't be in the box but on the line that you can see in the road. you should be able to get both tires on the line at the same time. or real close. but the point he is making is that it doesn't sense weight. it's not a scale. it's a sensor that senses metal. which is another part of the problem since the majority of our bikes are aluminum....
...last i checked aluminum is a metal
the sensors pickup the magnetic field. the problem is the bike being so small in comparison to a car it doesnt register, my friend with a hd sportster (all steel) has trouble at some lights like we do

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...last i checked aluminum is a metal
non magnetic last time I checked.

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sometimes touching your centerstand to the ground is enough to trigger the sensor.

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