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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 03-12-2009, 12:44 PM Thread Starter
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Had court today

I got 3 tickets for loud exhaust, registration not valid, and no proof of insurance. It was pretty stupid of me to not have a current insurance card on me but it happens. Very stupid of me to not realize my plates were expired.

No proof of insurance got thrown out by me bringing in my current card. $150 and court supervision for the registration.

Then comes the loud exhaust....

Judge: It says here you got a ticket for a loud exhaust. Do you have straight pipes on this thing or what?

Me: No, your Honor. The problem was that one of the exhaust hangers came off and it began hitting my rear axle.

Judge: So this isn't one of those souped up things?

Me: It's a Nissan Sentra, your Honor.

Judge: (chuckles) We will just dismiss this one.

I'm glad I caught him on a good day. I was in and out in 30 minutes.
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post #2 of 19 (permalink) Old 03-12-2009, 01:29 PM
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Wow! Someone that admitted to being wrong and taking their punishment like a man.

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Would it have sounded better if I complained about not getting the renewel letter in the mail? I don't really see it as their responsibility to baby sit me by telling me to get my ass to the DMV and take care of my stuff.
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Wow! Someone that admitted to being wrong and taking their punishment like a man.
That's not allowed here.
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That's not allowed here.
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(Hangs head in shame for not being able to man up)
Fine, is this acceptable?

Damn police are no long a public service. They are becoming a business because all they care about is the damn revenue they can get from people such as myself trying to be law abiding citizens. It's also a load of crap that their badges say protect and serve, even though the supreme court has ruled that they do NOT have to protect individual citizens!
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It's ok, I was giving you shit.

I agree that there is a much stronger presence of cops "patrolling" and "enforcing" now then there was a few months ago to generate revenue. Tons more cars pulled over, pretty damn ridiculous, almost every day I see a few pulled over, whereas a year ago I rarely saw anyone pulled over.
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Me: It's a Nissan Sentra, your Honor.

Judge: (chuckles)

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I was really commending you.

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I was just messing around. Nobody to blame for that stuff except myself
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The real question is, did ya put straight pipes on the sentra?
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nope.... It does have a full race exhaust though. It might also be getting a turbo sometime in the near future - I'm debating if I really want a Sentra pushing over 400 ponies though. I have my new bike now, so that might take care of my need for speed.
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Is this where I get the "Take it to the track" speech?
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nope.... It does have a full race exhaust though. It might also be getting a turbo sometime in the near future - I'm debating if I really want a Sentra pushing over 400 ponies though. I have my new bike now, so that might take care of my need for speed.
I was thinking, I like this guy because of your opening and 1st response. Then in your 2nd reply you had theater followed with a good complaint if not an excuse. In your 3rd response you humanized yourself back to my first impression.

But then, finally, I find that while you did partially answer the judge's questions as far as what can be read in the transcript or at least to his apparent satisfaction, you did not respond how the judge expected you to do. He was anticipating follow up but did not push further when you actually did not answer the second part of his 1st question that ended in "or what". With his 2nd question, you did not adhere to the judge's definition of "souped up", which I believe you understood clearly that he was summarizing what the law defined by using a colloquial term.

By law, if an OEM engine-drive system component or element is not replaced with an equivalent DOT certified item, it is a modification (i.e., is “souped up”) or possibly is inferior and “unsafe”, and thus is illegal.
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I think I did answer the judge's question, because his question was in regards to the ticket I received. First off, I would like to state that I don't go flying around the streets. The main reason why I got a "race" exhaust put on my car is because it was several hundred dollars cheaper than the alternitive. It also has a silencer put in the muffler to quiet it down.

I do not consider my car to be a race car. As I said above, I contemplated putting a turbo on it, but that was when I still had a truck and not my bike. (Just re-read my response about the turbo where I was implying I was going to add a turbo. It is looking pretty dim now).

The ticket that I received stated "Exhaust - modified". I'm not a lawyer by any means, but from what I have read about the law, it does need to be more specific than just being modified. The quality of my exhaust is superior in quality of OEM, and is not unsafe (other than the rubber donut that slipped off of the hanger).

I do take responsibility for my actions, and I beleived I answered all of the judge's questions. What I'm not going to do is tell him to issue me a fine for an ordinance that I don't beleive I broke.
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is it a sentra seR or spec V or what?
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yanking your chain...

that's what I was doing. The Judge screwed up in not having you fully answer his questions and because he was too vague. The Judge did not do his job and obviously was satisfied with the $150 he nailed you for. If your exhaust is louder than stock, you are in violation of the law. If it eliminated the cat or some other emission device, you are in violation of the law. Technically, a muffler from Mmidas that supposidly duplicates OEM may not meet spec. That is why almost any AM mc exhaust is in violation, even if it is no louder than stock. If a mc muffler does not have a DOT stamp, it is in violation. The are forces at work to make this apply only to mc's, which is what rankles me. Cages only get busted if the AM muffler is too loud. In Germany for example, the TUV (their DOT) requirements even extend to tires! It is coming, along with GPS devices to track your speed and location. Eventually we'll get tickets based on GPS tracking and pay road usage & access tolls (like in London) based on GPS and Big Brother. Black boxes are already being used in accident litigation, similar to airplane crashes.
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thats bull shit ^^^^^ why do most after market bolt on cat-backs say 50-state legal then?
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It is a 03 Sentra Spec V. About then stuff in Germany though, they really do have some strict regulations but I think thats because of the Autobahn (about 60% of the nations highways?).

The AM cat-back say 50 state legal for the emissions testing. That doesn't mean they meet the sounds requirement. Most states have different ways to judge the sound, ours is varying from stock. Lots of them have a certain decibel level they must meet.

P.S. I like taking other sides of arguments and enjoy a good debate. No offense taken, and none was meant if it came off that way.
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