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I need more rear brakes!!!!



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Linky no worky.

Odd setup though.

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its for stunting. you have a caliper connected to the pedal, and then a caliper connected to hand or thumb brake on the left side handlebar. not sure on teh 3rd caliper tho.
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Third one is a parking brake.

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Looks like the two pots are linked.

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It brings me back to my BMX days skidding out on the sidewalk. :P
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but its still the same stock master cylinder? Am I missing something?

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Dual caliper handbrake setup, nothing out of the ordinary there.

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Dual caliper handbrake setup, nothing out of the ordinary there.
Except it's triple caliper
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Except it's triple caliper
It's the "dual quad" setup from FullThrottleInc, seen em many times before. I've met the guy who owns FTI and I gotta say he's one inventive mofo, cool dude for sure.

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Idiots are born everyday
So are haters apparently.

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So are haters apparently.
luckily for us, there are way more idiots to make fun of.

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So recap for those of us lost in this thread. What the hell does the second caliper (linked to stock brake/master) do?

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Looks like a set up they should have gave Nicky Hayden when he was destoying rear brakes on the RC51 and on the RC211V.

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stop the bike, duh!


and add more weight
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So recap for those of us lost in this thread. What the hell does the second caliper (linked to stock brake/master) do?
The dual calipers are likely the same size as the front. You have to match the master cylinder to the calipers in order to get the right "feel" to the brake. It was probably easier (and a little bit cooler), to throw the two front calipers on the rear with the same master, than come up with a smaller master cylinder and dial in the feel.

The third is on there for the foot brake, so you can opt between the two. Again, matched to the foot master cylinder.

For stunting, I can see the point.
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So recap for those of us lost in this thread. What the hell does the second caliper (linked to stock brake/master) do?
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Aside from keeping from going past 12 O'Clock, what else are the rear brakes used for in stunting?

Do you really need an 8 piston setup out back? Does the increased feel/feedback really help that much? I'd guess that given the fact that you're balancing a 500 lbs. bike on a single point, you wouldn't need any force to speak of to get the front end back down from a wheelie and that the single pot rear caliper being applied with any forward movement would do the job handily. Seems excessive but I don't know stunting.


Thinking about it even more, I'd guess that this 8 pot setup would be even harder to control given the combined strength of the stopping power. Trying to find a balance point, start to go a bit past, hit the rear brake to get balanced again and instead slam the front end down.

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Re: I need more rear brakes!!!!

For all the time the bike goes in reverse

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Aside from keeping from going past 12 O'Clock, what else are the rear brakes used for in stunting?

Do you really need an 8 piston setup out back? Does the increased feel/feedback really help that much? I'd guess that given the fact that you're balancing a 500 lbs. bike on a single point, you wouldn't need any force to speak of to get the front end back down from a wheelie and that the single pot rear caliper being applied with any forward movement would do the job handily. Seems excessive but I don't know stunting.


Thinking about it even more, I'd guess that this 8 pot setup would be even harder to control given the combined strength of the stopping power. Trying to find a balance point, start to go a bit past, hit the rear brake to get balanced again and instead slam the front end down.
First thing you have to assume is the rider is gonna have the idle cranked up to around 4k RPM, constantly, so you'll almost always be braking. You'll touch the brakes way more than you ever touch the throttle. Slow wheelies (~5mph) are way different than highway wheelies as far as controlling them goes, on the highway it's just a little tap here and there, in a parking lot it's constant braking.

When doing circle wheelies, instead of thinking of it like a circle, it's rather a bunch of small hoops. The bike falls, let off the brake so the high idle can bring it back up so that again you can let it start to fall and so on and so on. Now as far as combos go, you almost need to have a dual caliper setup. Let's say you have a single caliper setup and you're using your footbrake but then jump to the seat and start using the handbrake, it takes a few pumps of the handbrake to get the brake responding right and that's no good, with a dual caliper setup both are ready to go. There are also times when you're way back behind balance point that a shitty brake setup will not bring you back forward, also no good.

To sum it up, brakes are the single most important part of stunt riding and this dual quad setup is the cat's ass.

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Had no clue about the idle thing or how the brakes were used.

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Hmmm, Very informative......I didnt even know there was such thing as a rear break. i just thought that little lever was there to balance out the look with the shifter

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