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Mitchell Report Released

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According to the Mitchell Commission report, here are players mentioned and how they are linked to performance enhancing substances:

Information Learned During this Investigation Concerning BALCO and Major League Baseball (8 players/ 3 active in MLB in 2007)
From the report: "I requested interviews of all the major league players who had been publicly implicated in the BALCO case."

Marvin Benard
Barry Bonds
Bobby Estalella
Jason Giambi
Jeremy Giambi
Benito Santiago
Gary Sheffield
Randy Velarde

Information Regarding Purchases or Use of Performance Enhancing Substances by Players in Major League Baseball (53 players/ 18 active in MLB in 2007)
From the report: "The following discussion is organized in roughly chronological order. Records do not exist to document every transaction described by witnesses. [Kirk] Radomski stated that, with one exception noted below, the payments he received from professional baseball players were for performance enhancing substances, as opposed to personal training or other services, and this assertion was confirmed by those players who agreed to speak with us about their dealings with him."
Lenny Dykstra
David Segui
Larry Bigbie
Brian Roberts
Jack Cust
Tim Laker
Josias Manzanillo
Todd Hundley
Mark Carreon
Hal Morris
Matt Franco
Rondell White
Roger Clemens
Andy Pettitte
Chuck Knoblauch
Jason Grimsley
Gregg Zaun
David Justice
F.P. Santangelo
Glenallen Hill
Mo Vaughn
Denny Neagle
Ron Villone
Ryan Franklin
Chris Donnels
Todd Williams
Phil Hiatt
Kevin Young
Mike Lansing
Cody McKay
Kent Mercker
Adam Piatt
Miguel Tejada
Jason Christiansen
Mike Stanton
Stephen Randolph
Jerry Hairston, Jr.
Paul Lo Duca
Adam Riggs
Bart Miadich
Fernando Vina
Kevin Brown
Eric Gagnť
Mike Bell
Matt Herges
Gary Bennett, Jr.
Jim Parque
Brendan Donnelly
Chad Allen
Jeff Williams
Howie Clark
Exavier "Nook" Logan

Alleged Internet Purchases of Performance Enhancing Substances By Players in Major League Baseball (16 players, 8 active in MLB in 2007)
From the report: "Since the initial news reports of the raid by New York and Florida law enforcement officials on Signature Pharmacy and several rejuvenation centers, the names of several current and former major league players have appeared in the media as alleged purchasers of performance enhancing substances through these operations. These include:"

Rick Ankiel
Paul Byrd
Jay Gibbons
Troy Glaus
Jose Guillen
Jerry Hairston Jr.
Gary Matthews, Jr.
Scott Schoeneweis
David Bell
Jose Canseco
Jason Grimsley
Darren Holmes
John Rocker
Ismael Valdez
Matt Williams
Steve Woodard

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TODD HUNDLEY?????? I thought sterioids are supposed to make you good!?!?

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TODD HUNDLEY?????? I thought sterioids are supposed to make you good!?!?
I was just going to post when I saw his name. I know for a fact my buddy used to do blow with him. I'm talking recently, within the last couple years. I'm not surprised to see Hundley's name on here. He likes to party

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so bonds still gonna fight having the * by his name is the hall of fame?

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77 players total. I bet that is only the tip of the iceburg
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77 players total. I bet that is only the tip of the iceburg
yea, its about time the playing field got leveled. 70 home runs seasons are getting outta hand.

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Thats what sells tickets though. Live by the sword die by the sword.
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I'm crackin' up at all this. All the hate on Bonds just to find out he was just one of the many. Hope those same people hatin' on Bonds have enough to evenly spread around!
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I'm crackin' up at all this. All the hate on Bonds just to find out he was just one of the many. Hope those same people hatin' on Bonds have enough to evenly spread around!

The hate on Bonds is from is own doing. He is the biggest arrogant a$$hole out there. I hope he fires for the sh!t he tried to get away with.
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The hate on Bonds is from is own doing. He is the biggest arrogant a$$hole out there. I hope he fires for the sh!t he tried to get away with.
+1 to this. I didn't dislike Bonds because he was doing steroids...I just can't stand his shitty attitude.

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The hate on Bonds is from is own doing. He is the biggest arrogant a$$hole out there. I hope he fires for the sh!t he tried to get away with.
They all tried to get away with it! He just got caught and wouldn't admit to it. Wait, that's the rest of them too!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071214/...itchell_report

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I believed Clemens was juicing for a while. No way you could be his age and pitch that well year after year without help. If anyone is around 40 and is kicking more ass than an up and coming young star, chances are they are cheating.

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I believed Clemens was juicing for a while. No way you could be his age and pitch that well year after year without help. If anyone is around 40 and is kicking more ass than an up and coming young star, chances are they are cheating.
Kind of makes me wonder if Randy Couture is juicing. He's 44 and whooping on people half his age.

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Kind of makes me wonder if Randy Couture is juicing. He's 44 and whooping on people half his age.
You see a lot of that now. Old guys making "remarkable" comebacks. It's not natural for atheletes to hit their prime in their late 30's or later. Look at Ankiel. He had an amazing comeback year...and surprise, surpirse, his name is on the list

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Cheating sucks, but you could understand why these guys do it. Think about about it, why do most people want to become professional athletes.

1) They Love playing the game.

2) They want to be famous.

3) They want to make a ton of money.

Many off the guys on that list were able to accomplish all three, so they got what they wanted. If you cared and valued the record books, integrity, and the hall of fame you wouldn't do it, but if your goal was to play, make money, and be famous you can get that by using performance enhancing drugs. Look at Marion Jones, it seems all of her success was due to drugs, because the second she tried to come back to the sport clean, she was a couple of seconds slower than almost every woman on the field. I don't know what the solution will be to this problem. I think we may eventually have to accept this like we do in football. Have a testing system, but know that you won't catch everyone. Also, this has become big business for scientists, so they will continue to make drugs to boost these athletes performances and to mask the drugs in a test. It is similar to trying to police the internet. It has just grown exponentially and is very difficult to control at this point.

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I don't care about these guys juicing

Hell I encourage it, I'll be damned if I am spending:

-50-75 per ticket
-25-40 on parking
-50-100 on beer

and not be entertained by homeruns, incredible plays, etc. This is their job, entertainers and if I am not entertained I m not spending the money!
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I'm crackin' up at all this. All the hate on Bonds just to find out he was just one of the many. Hope those same people hatin' on Bonds have enough to evenly spread around!

I don't think one person who has paid any attention to this from '98 on has thought that Bonds was acting alone. When a raging asshole breaks the two most hallowed records in sport while blatantly cheating, he of course will be the focus of negative attention.

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I don't care about these guys juicing

Hell I encourage it, I'll be damned if I am spending:

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-25-40 on parking
-50-100 on beer

and not be entertained by homeruns, incredible plays, etc. This is their job, entertainers and if I am not entertained I m not spending the money!
I'm going to hazard a guess and suggest you may have not grown up a baseball fan?

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I don't think one person who has paid any attention to this from '98 on has thought that Bonds was acting alone. When a raging asshole breaks the two most hallowed records in sport while blatantly cheating, he of course will be the focus of negative attention.



I'm going to hazard a guess and suggest you may have not grown up a baseball fan?
I am a baseball fan and have been since it was drilled into my head since I was a kid. Playing 160+ games a year and staying injury free is IMPOSSIBLE without enhancements.
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I am a baseball fan and have been since it was drilled into my head since I was a kid. Playing 160+ games a year and staying injury free is IMPOSSIBLE without enhancements.
That's complete horsepoo. I come from a baseball family and have been very close to the sport my whole life...this steroids fiasco is an emarrassment.

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