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Michael Vick conditionally reinstated to play in the NFL

This makes me sick to my stomach.

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NEW YORK (AP) Michael Vick is back in the NFL. Now all he needs is a team to play for.

Vick, free after serving 18 months in prison for running a dogfighting ring, was reinstated with conditions by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell on Monday. He could participate in regular-season games as early as October.

Vick can immediately take part in preseason practices, workouts and meetings and can play in the final two preseason games - if he can find a team that will sign him. A number of teams have already said they would not.

Once the season begins, Vick may participate in all team activities except games, and Goodell said he would consider Vick for full reinstatement by Week 6 (Oct. 18-19) at the latest....


Hey, while we're at it, let's parole that kiddie rapist because he makes a good party clown.

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I'm torn on the issue. I hate anybody who messes with 1)Children 2)Women and 3)Animals in that order. I despise them actually. But he served his time and should be allowed to return to his work. I would prefer there be a more conditional basis, like more community service or something. But maybe his team will do that...
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His sentence was a joke for the crime and I wish he was banned from the NFL for life.

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You know, villify me if you want, but I'm ok with it. He already has been tried in a court of law by his peers. He was punished. Why should the NFL trump that? If you want to be mad at anyone, be mad at the judicial system for extending favortism towards famous and or sports stars. That is the real problem.

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Would i get my job back if i was in jail for 18 months for killing dogs? No, he shouldn't either. If anything professional athletes should be held to a HIGHER standard than everybody else, children look up to them as role models, that's part of the deal, and if you don't fit that role, you shouldn't be allowed to play.

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Would i get my job back if i was in jail for 18 months for killing dogs? No, he shouldn't either. If anything professional athletes should be held to a HIGHER standard than everybody else, children look up to them as role models, that's part of the deal, and if you don't fit that role, you shouldn't be allowed to play.
Seriously? Do you follow the news? A WHOLE lot of superstar atheletes are fucked up. That is a fact. And are you saying that if you go to jail you shouldn't be allowed to hold a job anymore? What happened to rehabilitation?

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Seriously? Do you follow the news? A WHOLE lot of superstar atheletes are fucked up. That is a fact. And are you saying that if you go to jail you shouldn't be allowed to hold a job anymore? What happened to rehabilitation?
If I were charged with a felony like Vick, I can guarantee I would not get my job back nor would I be able to find another one in my field.

And you can't justify Vick being allowed back into the NFL because other athletes are fucked up. It's my opinion none of the fucked up ones should be allowed back in. They are role models whether they like it or not and should be held to a higher standard like eD jeremy said.

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Edit. changed my peace oriented post. Forgot the next one, hold on.

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A higher standard huh?? Like the multiple players who have been charged with one form or another of murder and still play?? Or rape? Or assault?? Or any of the other MULTIPLE FELONIES they have been charged with, and will still be inducted into the hall of fame? Don't tell me Ray Lewis won't go to the hall. I just think everyone deserves a second chance, just like you would if caught....

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He did his time for the crime. He should be reinstated with NO conditions, granted a team picks him up..
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a lot of people finding killing animals not a big deal.

I'll take my comparison a bit further. Say he shot a kid in the head. If he did his time of 2 years. Should he go back to playing football? He did his time. mmmkay


Kids look up to athletes as role models. Why should the athletes follow the same footsteps as gansta rappers?
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I guess at least it's comforting to know he lost a shit ton of money and is basically an indentured servant to the NFL for the next couple years.

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running an illegal dog fighting ring, raping a girl, committing murder, taking illegal drugs.....none of those things happen "by accident". They are all done intentionally, perhaps under poor judgement, but intentionally, nonetheless. It's not like it was questionable whether or not they should be doing these things. it's a pretty well known fact that taking someone's life is illegal.

most of these high profile people get out of their troubles by throwing around their millions of undeserved dollars at the best lawyers they can find.

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He served his time and is paying his debt to society. People have done far worse and let back in the NFL.

He would have been better off if he killed humans instead of animals they way people are still vilifying him.

I'm glad he gets a second chance, the American public loves a comeback, look at "I tried to get pregnant Manny."
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He served his time and is paying his debt to society. People have done far worse and let back in the NFL.

He would have been better off if he killed humans instead of animals they way people are still vilifying him.
I would argue there isn't much worse. Methodically killing innocent animals or humans is wrong... (especially for purely entertainment purposes) Some on here have compared it to what others have done... Getting drunk and having an accident is still "an accident". What Vic setup, funded, and participated in wasn't an accident... Anymore than Hitler accidentally killed a few jews... There is a difference in some people dying or some animals dying accidentally or in a war... and systematically torturing and murdering animals (especially dogs... which many put on par with humans.. like it or not... ) for your own sick entertainment.. or to show off "how bad ass thug" you are...

People who do that are a waste of skin... I stand by my neutered statement.. Someone should cut his pair off before he goes Holyfield and spits out a dozen kids by a dozen mamas... Waste of flesh.
If I saw him dying I wouldn't do a thing about it.. Let him die.. Let him rot.
or... even worse for him.. Let him fade away.. Last thing he will ever be famous for... Maybe someday we will see him living under a bridge as an old homeless man... That would be justice.

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He served his time and is paying his debt to society. People have done far worse and let back in the NFL.

He would have been better off if he killed humans instead of animals they way people are still vilifying him.

I'm glad he gets a second chance, the American public loves a comeback, look at "I tried to get pregnant Manny."
If he killed equal amounts of humans, I'm pretty sure he'd be in jail for the rest of his life, or at least I would hope so.

And judging by people's responses to this, if he was involved with the brutal murder of hundreds of people, people would still say he paid his debt to society and be should allowed back in the NFL.

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His sentence was a joke for the crime and I wish he was banned from the NFL for life.
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LOL. Man I was fiesty in my drunkenness last night...But I still do stand by my statement. You have to draw a line, and not let ANY criminals back or let ALL. I don't agree with what Vick did, but how long do we hold him accountable for those actions? And to what extent? Tough questions for sure.

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LOL. Man I was fiesty in my drunkenness last night...But I still do stand by my statement. You have to draw a line, and not let ANY criminals back or let ALL. I don't agree with what Vick did, but how long do we hold him accountable for those actions? And to what extent? Tough questions for sure.
I wish they would draw the line at felony convictions. You get charged with a felony, you're out of the league.

I don't buy all the BS about how he learned his lesson, he feels bad for what he did, he did his time, etc. It's all a bullshit publicity stunt. Had he got caught at 1 dog fight, maybe, but directly involved with and in charge of the brutal torture and murder of more than 100 dogs and even confessed to (after failing a lie detector test) that he himself killed at least 7 dogs by drowning or hanging them.

He's a sickfuck and deserves a lot worse than the punishment he received. It just goes to show how messed up our legal system is with celebrity bullshit.

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LOL. Man I was fiesty in my drunkenness last night...But I still do stand by my statement. You have to draw a line, and not let ANY criminals back or let ALL. I don't agree with what Vick did, but how long do we hold him accountable for those actions? And to what extent? Tough questions for sure.
that makes no sense?
treat all "criminals" the same
so.. the guy who has a few parking tickets.. or a DUI... is the same as the guy who kills 5 people in a gangbanger shootout.. is the same as the guy who gambles on a game .. is the same as the guy who diddles kids?

Obviously severity of crime should be a factor
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I would argue there isn't much worse. Methodically killing innocent animals or humans is wrong... (especially for purely entertainment purposes)
I guess we should jail everyone that hunts for a sport

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LOL. Man I was fiesty in my drunkenness last night...But I still do stand by my statement. You have to draw a line, and not let ANY criminals back or let ALL. I don't agree with what Vick did, but how long do we hold him accountable for those actions? And to what extent? Tough questions for sure.
You should know better. Would military take you back? I don't think so.
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He did his time for the crime. He should be reinstated with NO conditions, granted a team picks him up..
+1, he paid his debt to society, let the man play football.

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that makes no sense?
treat all "criminals" the same
so.. the guy who has a few parking tickets.. or a DUI... is the same as the guy who kills 5 people in a gangbanger shootout.. is the same as the guy who gambles on a game .. is the same as the guy who diddles kids?

Obviously severity of crime should be a factor
Really? I mean really?

The parking tickets is a stupid example to prove your point. All the rest HAVE happened, and there are players playing professional sports who have done it. Murder, rape, abuse, you name it, and they are playing. Why treat Vick any different?

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Really? I mean really?

The parking tickets is a stupid example to prove your point. All the rest HAVE happened, and there are players playing professional sports who have done it. Murder, rape, abuse, you name it, and they are playing. Why treat Vick any different?
the parking tickets kind of was a joke.. although that said.. perhaps they will be a felony soon.. at the rate da mayor is going...

the rest? for real?
i mean.. i dont follow lcd sports... and i know a lot of these people are extremely functional morons.. but.. i didnt know there were convicted child molestors and gangland murders... maybe there are.. i didnt know.
they shouldn't play anymore.. they should go to jail.

and they should unban pete rose.. he did his time.
and his crime at least in my eyes... wasn't 1 billionth as bad
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