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McGwire Admits Steroid Abuse

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory?id=9533663

Suck it ESPN...apologists who refuse to admit the obvious.

For the record, when McGwire broke the record in 1998 I left the room in protest and didn't watch...for all the idiots that like to say "we were all duped". It was painfully obvious then and the ongoing denial by some makes it even worse today.

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Could this lead to an indictment for lying to Congress? If he was under oath, it should!

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Could this lead to an indictment for lying to Congress? If he was under oath, it should!
I could be wrong, but I don't think he ever answered their questions directly. Didn't he pull that, "I'm not here to talk about the past," baloney

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Now this is a huge shock to start out 2010. A guy who doubled his muscle size from his minor league cards till his "glory" days. Next your gonna be telling me there never was a show called teletubee's

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Could this lead to an indictment for lying to Congress? If he was under oath, it should!

Mark never lied. Even though it is too little to late. Mark said in Congress that he is here to say that roids are bad. He also said he is not here to talk about the past but to talk about the future.


The thing about it is he will never get into the hall of fame. He got 23% this year. I doubt he will get over 50% ever in his chance to get into the HOF
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Re: McGwire Admits Steroid Abuse

Well at least Sammy Sosa is clean

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there have been accusations that hank aaron was on the juice. that the last few years of his career was when they started trickling into baseball.
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The thing about it is he will never get into the hall of fame. He got 23% this year. I doubt he will get over 50% ever in his chance to get into the HOF
Thats probally why he came out and admited it today. I'll bet he saw the results of the HOF vote and finally realized he is not going to to go in. (Congrats to Hawk BTW)

I'm sure someone convinced him that his only slim chance at the HOF is if he comes clean and admits to the roids.

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Come on guys, he was just a workout warrior. He said he only took small, inconsequential doses to recover from injuries. He hit 49 HRs with a beanpole physique as a rookie. The roids did nothing.

Rose bet on his own team while managing them. That's just as bad and could have potentially affected the game more than a lineup with roided up Thor, Incredible Hulk, and Colossus hitting 600ft homeruns since they still have to hit the ball. It's such a huge conflict of interest. Who's to say he didn't put in a bp pitcher when the game was over and he needed to cover a spread or adjust lineups/rotations based on what he had riding on the game?

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Come on guys, he was just a workout warrior. He said he only took small, inconsequential doses to recover from injuries. He hit 49 HRs with a beanpole physique as a rookie. The roids did nothing.

Rose bet on his own team while managing them. That's just as bad and could have potentially affected the game more than a lineup with roided up Thor, Incredible Hulk, and Colossus hitting 600ft homeruns since they still have to hit the ball. It's such a huge conflict of interest. Who's to say he didn't put in a bp pitcher when the game was over and he needed to cover a spread or adjust lineups/rotations based on what he had riding on the game?
Yep they still have to hit the ball. And hitting a 95mph 3" diameter ball moving around in the air from 90' away isnt as easy as it looks.

Also they raised the pitching mounds (increases speed supposedly) and developed a tighter wound ball (which makes it fly farther). Both of which were supposed to increase scoring to make the game more exciting for the fans.

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Baseball stadiums are relatively tiny now too. Look at the new Yankee Stadium or Astros Stadium, et al.

Steroids definitely help you get the bat around to hit the ball. My first paragraph was very facetious. You still have to hit the ball, but when a 32 ounce bat feels like a wiffle bat to a roider it certainly helps.

Some people think that what Rose did isn't that big of a deal and I couldn't disagree more. I put it right up there with steroids. He shouldn't ever sniff the HOF unless he's paying admission as a visitor. Or give it to him posthumously so he can't benefit from it- since all he wants is the money and deals that goes along with enshrinement.
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Baseball stadiums are relatively tiny now too. Look at the new Yankee Stadium or Astros Stadium, et al.

Steroids definitely help you get the bat around to hit the ball. My first paragraph was very facetious. You still have to hit the ball, but when a 32 ounce bat feels like a wiffle bat to a roider it certainly helps.

Some people think that what Rose did isn't that big of a deal and I couldn't disagree more. I put it right up there with steroids. He shouldn't ever sniff the HOF unless he's paying admission as a visitor. Or give it to him posthumously so he can't benefit from it- since all he wants is the money and deals that goes along with enshrinement.

Yeah, both are pretty bad. As you said, Rose could have fixed many games to win his bets. Yes, he played very hard, but betting, who knows how deep the rabitthole goes. As for the steroids, I think we are screwed. Technology will keep bringing new things into the game that will make things unfair. Just wait till they make bionic arms, or nanites controlling your heart rate and muscles . Like Mike Goldberg says on UFC "It is all over". I think all the steroid guys will get into the hall of fame because eventually people will see that techno advances will just keep changing the game. People will move away from caring about the numbers and just accept that it will only be entertainment and that things will be different.

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Yep they still have to hit the ball. And hitting a 95mph 3" diameter ball moving around in the air from 90' away isnt as easy as it looks.

Also they raised the pitching mounds (increases speed supposedly) and developed a tighter wound ball (which makes it fly farther). Both of which were supposed to increase scoring to make the game more exciting for the fans.
If you already have the ability to hit the ball which they all did this is then like giving an extra 40hp to a already fantastic racer.

The mound was lowered in 1969 which increased offense. The ball thing I have no issue with except that it would be nearly impossible to test unless time travel is invented.

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The excuse that roids don't help hand eye coridination is retarded.

Yeah, that might be true. But the extra muscle helps you heal faster so you don't wear down half way thru the season. It also turn lines drive outs and bloop singles into home runs...which is what those guys are know for.

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I think pro ball players should be castrated. Testosterone is BAD! Ruins the game! It should be about skill, not muscle or ability to recover.

and on that healing faster thing, can't have that, either. Unfair. Ban doctors and surgeries from baseball too.

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oh and since hitting the ball seems to be agreed to be a pretty important component, we also need to ban LASIK and even corrective lenses. These aids turn would be whiffs into hits! Ruins the game!

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oh and since hitting the ball seems to be agreed to be a pretty important component, we also need to ban LASIK and even corrective lenses. These aids turn would be whiffs into hits! Ruins the game!

See, this is what I was getting at, in the past they didn't have access to any of these things. So technically, anyone that had this kind of surgery, or a few different legal vitamins are cheating. As technology evolves, the people evolve, so the eras are very different. I think most will soon realize that comparing the numbers won't mean as much due to these advances and will just accept it and enjoy the game.

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See, this is what I was getting at, in the past they didn't have access to any of these things. So technically, anyone that had this kind of surgery, or a few different legal vitamins are cheating. As technology evolves, the people evolve, so the eras are very different. I think most will soon realize that comparing the numbers won't mean as much due to these advances and will just accept it and enjoy the game.
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Can you imagine if any of the old greats had LASIK created 20/10 vision? and creatine? or the scientific understanding of strength training we have today? or the enhanced medical procedures that could have prolonged their careers?

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