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Daley trying to open front against the U.S. gun industry

Mayor Daley is trying to open a new front against the U.S. gun industry -- at the World Court in the Hague

Bill Cameron, WLS News
April 27, 2010
Since the Mayor's getting very little done in Springfield or Washington or in the courts to expand gun control, now he wants mayors in other countries like Mexico to drag American gunmakers into the World Court in the Hague.
Daley says, "We are shipping guns there by the truckload to people to kill each other. They're not manufactured there. And we want the drugs that come from other countries that is a conduit, like a highway through Mexico, into the United States! And we sit like we have no responsibility. We should not ship any guns to Mexico."
I asked the Mayor what legal authority there is to sue the U.S. gun industry in the World Court. He said, "Well, that's why we have about 12 million lawyers. You never know until you try."

Backing up Daley is Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter, one of more than a dozen mayors -- including the Mayor of Mexico City -- who signed a resolution to pursue this tactic.


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Daley... go bark up the tree of the PEOPLE making the decisions to do such things for the countries involved. They can be found with your circle of friends that are in Washington now... or did JW leave you out of the loop the past few years?

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the difference is drugs are illegal and guns are not
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what a douche

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Well, 24 years of Chicago Gun Control has done wonders for ending gun violence. Not.

All I can say is, the policy has FAILED. In a big way. It's time for a new approach to the problem. Doing more of the same in terms of restricting law-abiding citizens from owning/carrying guns will only result in more of the same fail we've seen over the last 24 years.

I've got a suggestion of a new approach.

1) gun safety taught in every high school in Chicago as a mandatory course.
2) target shooting available in every high school as an elective.
3) license/permit Chicago citizens to own/carry handguns after completing a safety course, and passing a criminal and mental health background check. Must be renewed every 5 years, with a refresher course requirement.

Maybe then the criminals will at least hit the intended targets, rather than kill innocents. And perhaps with the real threat that a citizen might prevent them from shooting, they'd think twice about pulling out the stupid guns.

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You know what's funny Craig, precisely as you mention many people have suggested shooting courses as a means to developing respect for weapons. Despite the fact that so many people have forced it right out of the class room, it seems a really good way of teaching things the right way.

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I wonder if King Daley will be petitioning for support from the Gov. of TX??
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...est=latestnews

AUSTIN, Texas -- Texas Gov. Rick Perry has a message for wily coyotes out there: Don't mess with my dog.

Perry says he needed just one shot from his laser-sighted pistol to take down a coyote that was menacing his dog during an early morning jog in an undeveloped area near Austin.

Perry told The Associated Press he sometimes carries his pistol, loaded with hollow-pointed bullets, when he jogs on trails because he's scared of snakes -- and that he'd seen coyotes in that area.

When the coyote came out of the brush toward his daughter's labrador retriever puppy on a February jog, he charged it and shot it with his .380 Ruger pistol.

"Don't attack my dog or you might get shot ... if you're a coyote," Perry said.

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He and Daley should duel. Hey, it's not unprecedented.

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I wonder if King Daley will be petitioning for support from the Gov. of TX?? he charged it and shot it with his .380 Ruger pistol.
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You know what's funny Craig, precisely as you mention many people have suggested shooting courses as a means to developing respect for weapons. Despite the fact that so many people have forced it right out of the class room, it seems a really good way of teaching things the right way.
Ya know, that's twice we've agreed lately :

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I wonder if King Daley will be petitioning for support from the Gov. of TX??
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...est=latestnews

AUSTIN, Texas -- Texas Gov. Rick Perry has a message for wily coyotes out there: Don't mess with my dog.

Perry says he needed just one shot from his laser-sighted pistol to take down a coyote that was menacing his dog during an early morning jog in an undeveloped area near Austin.

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When the coyote came out of the brush toward his daughter's labrador retriever puppy on a February jog, he charged it and shot it with his .380 Ruger pistol.

"Don't attack my dog or you might get shot ... if you're a coyote," Perry said.
Another article (by yahoo) on the same issue ended with the following lines.

The governor left the coyote where it fell.
"He became mulch," Perry said.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100427/..._shoots_coyote

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I’ll tell you one thing… I would not want too live in one of the boarder towns on the US side. I feel sorry for those people.

Anyone see this movie?

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I just want too add… It’s not a racist film about bashing illegal’s. It’s about the inherent dangers involved in the undertaking of that journey and how these people are used by the coyotes to hump drugs across the border. The raping of the women and the over all price the civilians pay on the US side.

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Also the movie can be rented from Netflix...

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I just want too add… It’s not a racist film about bashing illegal’s. It’s about the inherent dangers involved in the undertaking of that journey and how these people are used by the coyotes to hump drugs across the border. The raping of the women and the over all price the civilians pay on the US side.

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I seen the movie a while back from a friend who rented it from netfilx… I just did a quick search so I could have something too post. I’m not advertising the place that has the movie for sale… My interest is in the movie only.

Plus, the movie isn't about opening the floodgates. It’s more about the consequences of doing nothing.

If you do see the movie, you will know what i'm talking about.

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I seen the movie a while back from a friend who rented it from netfilx… I just did a quick search so I could have something too post. I’m not advertising the place that has the movie for sale… My interest is in the movie only.

Plus, the movie isn't about opening the floodgates. It’s more about the consequences of doing nothing.

If you do see the movie, you will know what i'm talking about.
I don't think anyone likes the current situation. The current status is unsustainable. The argument is about the way forward.

I don't agree with either of the two major positions on this. I think we have to:

First make it virtually impossible for an illegal to find work. This will entail steep fines and jail time for persons hiring illegals for the first offense, with escalation for subsequent offenses. This will immediately cut the flow of illegals, most of whom come here from all over the world seeking work and their fortune. without the benefit of proper documents. If they can't find work, there is no point in coming here.

Second, we need to secure our borders, including Land, Sea and Air. This means tracking everyone who enters on a tourist or student visa, and hounding them when they overstay. It also means doing what is necessary to cut off overland illegal immigration from BOTH Canada and Mexico. I'd start with the Mexican border only because of the drug trafficking problem, but BOTH land borders need to be secured.

Third, and in parallel with the other two points, we need to deal with the illegals who are already here. This is the most contentious point. My personal view at this time is that for those who are otherwise law-abiding, who have jobs and are already paying taxes for some documentable period, say 10 years, we give them work permits, and a 20 year path to acquire citizenship if they don't get convicted of any felony or serious crime other than possible an exception for previously using false documents to get work in the past. It should not be an easy path, but many of these ppl know no other life, and have been contributing to the US economy, paying taxes, etc.

Forth, we need to set up a workable guest worker program that allows us to acquire and keep track of guest workers to fill our country's needs. The current programs are poorly administrated and often abused.

Fifth, we need to re-assesses our legal immigration system and the current quotas. These are also wildly out of step with reality and out of date. They reflect our xenophobia more than the needs of our country.


Only if we address ALL of these areas will we be able to take control of our borders back.

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