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Well well well seems chicago isnt so strict about owning a hand gun after all

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/2...052610.article

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An 80-year-old Army veteran shot and killed an armed man who’d broken in to the two-flat where he and his wife live in East Garfield Park early this morning and fired at him.

He did what his son said “he had to do” after having vowed not to be victimized again following a robbery months earlier.

Neither the man nor his wife was hurt.

He was questioned by police and released without any charges being filed.


The dead man has a history of drug and weapons convictions. Police said they are continuing to investigate.

When he returned home, the man, 80 — who walked with the aid of a walking stick and wore a T-shirt emblazoned with President Obama’s face and name — told a reporter he didn’t want to talk about what had happened.

His 57-year-old son, though, said his father was “sorry that it happened, but it had to be him or us.”

The son said the intruder, armed with a pistol, came in through a rear window and ran up a rear staircase, banging on his locked door before running downstairs and being shot in a confrontation with the older man.

The intruder shot first before the veteran fired back and killed him, the son said and police confirmed.

“Evidently, he missed,” the son said of the intruder. "My father had no choice. It was him or the other guy.

“I heard boom-boom-boom, and there he was by the back door,” said the son, who was upstairs sleeping at the time of the break-in shortly after 5 a.m.

Walking slowly from the police car that brought them home, the couple returned to their home at noon. They slowly climbed the steps to their front door and went inside.

A couple of months ago, the man — a Korean war veteran with three children and six grandkids — had been robbed at gunpoint at his home by three intruders, his son said. The robbers took $150, he said — and his father bought a gun and vowed never to be a victim again.

“If homeowners can’t have guns to defend themselves and their families, there’s going to be more home invasions,” the son said. “My father’s glad he had a weapon. He did what he had to do.”

The son said he recognized the intruder from the neighborhood.

Though police hadn’t publicly identified the dead man, his mother said it was Anthony Nelson, 29, of the 3300 block of West Walnut.

Nelson had a history of drug and weapons convictions and was last released from prison in December, Lenora Nelson said and Illinois Department of Corrections records confirmed. Nelson was free on parole, the records show.

Nelson was studying to be a carpenter, his mother said, and was due to start a job next week clearing out homes.

She said he ate his favorite dinner with her Tuesday night — steak burritos — and that she hadn’t seen him since 9 p.m.

Of the man who shot her son, she said she has “no feelings for him at all.”

Neighbors applauded the elderly man’s actions.

“It’s a good thing they had a gun, or they might be dead,” said Curtis Thompson, who lives next to the couple.

Thompson reflected on the break-in and added, “It could have been us.”

“I’d have done the same thing," said another neighbor, Audrey Williams, who has known the couple for more than 40 years. "They say we've got to give up our guns. But that's crazy."

The break-in happened at 5:22 a.m., according to police, when an armed man entered the home in the 600 block of North Sawyer Avenue on Chicago’s West Side, awakening the homeowner, who shot him.

Neighbors said the elderly couple are longtime residents of the block.

“They’re a nice, loving couple,” another neighbor, Shaquite Johnson, said of the elderly man and woman

go time traveler style and go back in time, fuck his grandma, then shoot forward in time and then fuck his mom. Then return back to present state and call him a the product of two incest whores and hes your son and show video of you plowing the both members of his family. .
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Article does not specify wether it was a shotgun/rifle (legal in Chicago) or handgun (band in the city).

Good for the old man. I'm also glad he did not make a statement to the reporters. I'm also glad no innocent people where physically hurt, hopefully they can cope emotionally.

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A lawyer has already volunteered his time pro bono for defense should the City bring him up on weapons charges for the gun...though I can't see it here, that would be really bad PR given the circumstance.

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Long Guns are legal in the City, are they not?

I don't believe they say what kind of gun the old guy had.

Good for him. One less piece of shit on the streets.

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i'm sure Daley will forget to read this article.

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2...-resident.html


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As an 80-year-old Army veteran, his wife and great-grandson slept in their Humboldt Park home just before dawn Wednesday, a would-be burglar busted a basement window, crawled over discarded bikes and paint buckets, and made his way up winding stairs to an enclosed porch.

The intruder -- who police said wore stockings over his hands to keep from leaving prints -- wiggled the brass doorknob of the locked door that led to the first-floor apartment, but it didn't open, the family said. He then turned to the oversized glass window of the 80-year-old's bedroom, pulled out his gun and shot, police and family said.

But just as the man got off a second round, the homeowner, who had a handgun of his own, fired a single shot, killing the intruder, a police source said.

"He missed, (but) my daddy didn't," said the 80-year-old's son, Butch Gant, who lives upstairs in the two-flat in the 600 block of North Sawyer Avenue.

The shooting comes as the U.S. Supreme Court is expected to rule by the end of June on Chicago's decades-old ban on possessing handguns. During oral arguments in March, the court's majority appeared almost certain to strike down the city ordinance and rule that residents have a right to a handgun at home.

Chicago police have long aggressively been trying to remove guns from the public, saying they are the principal weapons used in murders and employed by gangs to enforce turf through violence.

Handguns account for only one-third of all firearms owned in the United States but more than two-thirds of all firearm-related deaths each year, according to the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence. A gun in a home is four times more likely to be involved in an unintentional shooting, the council said.

But many in Chicago echoed the feelings of the victim's family that if he hadn't been armed, the frightening encounter could have ended in their deaths.

"He saved our lives," said the man's wife, 83, who had been asleep with her husband when the noise of shattered glass startled the family from its sleep about 5:20 a.m.

Police let the Korean War veteran, who walks with the aid of a cane, go without filing immediate charges because he appeared to act in self-defense, according to police sources.

The homeowner bought his handgun after being robbed just six months ago, having vowed not to be a victim again, his family said.

In an interview at the home, the wife said her first thoughts were of her 12-year-old great-grandson asleep in the next room. She rushed to wake him up and led him to the front living room, away from the gunfire.

"The only thing I could think is 'God, please save my husband, myself and my grandbaby,'" she said.

The wife's hands continued to tremble hours after the shooting.

"I was scared to death," she said. "You're in your bed asleep, and somebody shoots a gun in your home. I'm still shook up."

Neighbors and family heralded the actions of the homeowner.

"He just protected his family," Gant, 57, said. "That's the most important thing to do, protect your family."

The intruder was later identified by his family as Anthony Nelson, 29, who was on parole since December following a three-year prison sentence for a drug conviction, according to county and state records.

He was pronounced dead at the scene, his blood splattered just feet away from the couple's bedroom window.

anthony_nelson_150.jpgNelson (see prison photo at right) had a 13-page rap sheet that includes a number of drug and weapons convictions dating to 1998, according to police and court records. He lived less than a mile from the home he broke into. Neighbors recognized him from his mug shot as a man they had seen at the corner liquor store who went by the name "Big Ant."

"I just don't want to believe it's true," said his mother, Lenora Nelson, who said her son earned his GED while in custody and had just signed up for an online carpentry program. "He could fix almost anything," she said. Nelson was supposed to begin a job next week for a company that cleans out homes before they're remodeled, she said.

The last time she saw her son was Tuesday night, when they had his favorite meal -- steak burritos -- for dinner, she said. When he left around 9 p.m., he didn't tell her where he was going, she said.

Since being freed on parole, Nelson began working with an organization that helps former inmates find jobs once they're released from prison, his mother said.

Police declined to identify the 80-year-old shooter, saying he was a victim of a crime and it was against department policy to name him.

The homeowner met his wife while working as a presser at a dry cleaners. His wife, a retired nurse, also worked as a monitor on a bus for disabled children. Next month they will celebrate their 60th anniversary. The couple have lived in the same house for more than 40 years, but the wife is thinking about moving.

"How much can you take?" she said.

In the West Side neighborhood where the home invasion occurred, longtime homeowners have created a relatively stable community on their street -- an oasis from shootings. Neighbors said their stretch of North Sawyer Avenue had been a good place for families to raise their children a generation ago, but as the aging population dies, new residents move in and a heightened sense of danger grows.

Some residents choose different forms of protection. Audrey Williams, 75, said she keeps five dogs on her property to guard her home, but "this is the first time that we've had an incident like this, on this street, and I've lived here for 43 years," she said.

"They did the right thing. If anyone tried to come in on me, I'd do the same thing," said Williams, who has described the family as "sweet people who don't bother anyone."

One neighbor used to help the couple carry in groceries because they both walk with canes.

"Everyone around here looks around for each other and watches each other's homes," said Jose Perez, who has lived in the area about five years.

Throughout the day Wednesday, a family friend worked to board up the two broken windows. The son said the shooting demonstrates why Chicago's handgun must be repealed.

"How are we going to protect our homes without guns?" the son said. "That gun law should be abolished. You don't need guns on the street, but you need them in the home for protection."

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Article does not specify wether it was a shotgun/rifle (legal in Chicago) or handgun (band in the city).

Good for the old man. I'm also glad he did not make a statement to the reporters. I'm also glad no innocent people where physically hurt, hopefully they can cope emotionally.
It was a hand gun announced over radio and also insider info.

We dont need history lesson on legalities in chicago since must if not all know them already.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/26...-home-invader/

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A high-profile Chicago attorney has already stepped forward offering to represent the man pro bono if he faces charges for possessing a weapon.

go time traveler style and go back in time, fuck his grandma, then shoot forward in time and then fuck his mom. Then return back to present state and call him a the product of two incest whores and hes your son and show video of you plowing the both members of his family. .

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It was a hand gun announced over radio and also insider info.

We dont need history lesson on legalities in chicago since must if not all know them already.
If old man did use a handgun, then yes, I am surprised he was released.

In my book justifiable is still justifiable.

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If old man did use a handgun, then yes, I am surprised he was released.

In my book justifiable is still justifiable.
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go time traveler style and go back in time, fuck his grandma, then shoot forward in time and then fuck his mom. Then return back to present state and call him a the product of two incest whores and hes your son and show video of you plowing the both members of his family. .
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I'm confused. Why didn't the gun start killing family members? Aren't guns evil?




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A lawyer has already volunteered his time pro bono for defense should the City bring him up on weapons charges for the gun...though I can't see it here, that would be really bad PR given the circumstance.
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Good for him. Why they tried to make the felon seem like he was a human being is beyond me.

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Great story! Glad the home owner and his family are safe. RIP to the intruder (who got what he deserved) and condolences to his family (esp. his mother).
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Jesus christ. The intruder shot first as well. That man is 1000% justified in this, no questions asked. Glad that scumbag is off this Earth.

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Where's Daley on this? I'm during to hear his sound bite. Anyone heard his responseto this? Post it up




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Jesus christ. The intruder shot first as well. That man is 1000% justified in this, no questions asked. Glad that scumbag is off this Earth.
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If old man did use a handgun, then yes, I am surprised he was released.

In my book justifiable is still justifiable.

i'm sure the cops are happy about this. They don't have to deal with a repeating offender. I'm sure they are letting the district attorney decide and leave their hands clean of it.


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No comment from Daley:
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2...r-gun-ban.html

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http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2...r-gun-ban.html

Coward. The city's policy is unconsitutional and wrong. They better not charge that man for a thing.
You know after that people really dont have a clue almost everyone of those comments on that page reference his body guards. UHHH wtf does the CPD detailed to dickdaley have to do with gun ownership and the laws.

I mean really every politician has off duty cops working for them if they are not detailed to them normally

go time traveler style and go back in time, fuck his grandma, then shoot forward in time and then fuck his mom. Then return back to present state and call him a the product of two incest whores and hes your son and show video of you plowing the both members of his family. .
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http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2...r-gun-ban.html

Coward. The city's policy is unconsitutional and wrong. They better not charge that man for a thing.
He is such a F%ckin P&ssy!! be a man, admit your wrong and do the right thing. Stop sponsoring what amounts to Osha for thugs and gangbangers and allow people to protect themselves like the rest of America.




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