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ICarry Takes Chicago and Mayor Daley Back to Court!!
Executive Director Shaun Kranish writes:
Although the Supreme Court of the United States ruled in McDonald that Chicago has violated an individual and fundamental right to keep and bear arms by having an outright ban on pistols (and for decades this ban did not apply to Chicago aldermen and other criminals), Daley and his cohorts have immediately responded with more outrageous restrictions.

Long waiting, lots of paperwork
Huge fees for the permits
No gun stores in Chicago
Expensive training including live fire exercise required, but no training is allowed in the city
Limits on number of guns
You can't have a gun in all parts of your home
Much more...
Does it surprise law-abiding gun owners to receive this latest slap-in-the-face from King Richard? The intent of the new laws is quite clear - to make it as difficult and repressive as possible to own (keep) and carry (bear) a firearm. Who do these new laws apply to? Well, certainly not the mayor, the aldermen, or their fleet of bodyguards (our hearts go out to the fallen policeman who was shot a week before his retirement after returning home from protecting King Richard's house).

The laws are only written for you and I. Exactly the people who would never commit a crime. They simply don't want us to own guns - it's very clear with the miles of red tape, time, and expense required. Make any mistakes - or perhaps even if you do your best - the city has your name, address, and they may just come to visit you.

For this reason, ICarry.org has teamed up with nationally-known attorney Walter Maksym of Chicago to defend the Constitution and your rights. Mr. Maksym has put his extensive experience and knowledge to full use for us, and every gun owner in the country should applaud him for taking this case on. ICarry.org leaders have been vigorously working with Mr. Maksym this past month to make sure all unconstitutional aspects of the new Chicago ordinance are properly challenged.

Special thanks also goes out to ICarry.org President R. Joseph Franzese aka "Joe." Joe is a federally=licensed firearms dealer and has be planning on opening gun shops in Chicago for some time. After the McDonald ruling, Joe was exciting to get started and filed for business licenses at multiple locations in Chicago. However, a few days later Daley announced the new ban on gun shops. We're saying no!!

Mr. Daley:

You can't ban gun stores when guns are legal no more than you can ban book stores when books are legal. You can't ban gun stores when guns are legal no more than you can ban churches, synagogues, and mosques when religion is a constitutionally-protected freedom. You can't license, permit, and charge for the exercise of fundamental rights - especially those protected by the highest law in the land, our Constitution!

As Joe pointed out in this TV interview on Fox, Mayor Daley flunked the bar exam 4 times. That whole darn Constitution part is tough for some to understand!!!

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We will report the progress of the lawsuit on a continual basis, as the results will have astounding affects on the State of Illinois and perhaps even the rest of the country. It's time for sensible gun laws - ones that target the criminal misuse of guns and not ones that regulate and punish people with haven't threatened or harmed anyone.

thanks for wasting more money chicago when you could just give citizens their rights.
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Good for them. I hate Daley. He's a dick.
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I wonder... would it cost more money employing people to sift through all the paperwork to get permits than the potential revenue generated by all the fees?

The city could make TONS of money by making these permits a little easier to get, and we all know how much the city needs money. Too bad it's so corrupt.

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if more and more ppl sue the city, maybe they'll run deeper into debt.
Who knows, maybe we'll see CCW permits in ILL in our life time?

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daley is a douche.. that is all.

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$$$ for rediculous lawsuits but not the additional 1500-2000 cops they need. Smart.

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His staff can carry but we cant , bullshit . I predict we will have CCW within two years.

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Agree on all counts:

Daley is a douche bag

We will have CCW in 2 years or less (C'mon Rob, let us have our fantasy)
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In other news, Apple sues iCarry.


I hope they succeed.... what are the chances?
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Agree on all counts:

Daley is a douche bag

We will have CCW in 2 years or less (C'mon Rob, let us have our fantasy)


Keep dreaming.

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There is a theory out there that goes like this ............. the reason all of the states are passing CCW laws is that when we default on loans to peeps like china , the American people need to be armed and ready for a conflict. In WW2 , the japs new that attacking the mainland would be a loosing proposition due to fact that most households had a gun.

This is why I think in two or so years we will see CCW here , until then ,just carry a well concealed gun . That way you can be judged by 12 than carried by 6 if a bad situation arises.

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Don't get the joke. Is it making fun of icarry or gun owners?

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Don't get the joke. Is it making fun of icarry or gun owners?
icarry is capitalizing on Apple's ipod/ipad/iphone/ianything notariety and recognition.

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gotta give props on that motivate photo, perfect quote and photo. Just perfect.


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[QUOTE=Arch;1778071]icarry is capitalizing on Apple's ipod/ipad/iphone/I get it now. Thought you were attacking icarry. I'm getting too old

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They sent a stack of Icarry business cards with a note that women should be allowed to protect themselves. I nice way to get women involved in a male dominated issue. They're right too!

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As cool as these sound, it's all bullshit.

#1, it was never proven that any Japanese General, let alone General Yamamoto Isoroku ever said this.

#2, Judged by 12? Unless you get a huge (financial) backing by NRA and iCarry, you'd wish you were dead when the courts and the FEDs were done with you. Unless you're rich enough to somehow weasel your way out of this.

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#2, Judged by 12? Unless you get a huge (financial) backing by NRA and iCarry, you'd wish you were dead when the courts and the FEDs were done with you. Unless you're rich enough to somehow weasel your way out of this.
So you would rather be dead ? You dont have to be rich to defend yourself , you have to be right. The feds wont give a shit if I shoot some asshole with a rap sheet a mile long . The courts will listen to what the lawyers and the jury say.

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So you would rather be dead ? You dont have to be rich to defend yourself , you have to be right. The feds wont give a shit if I shoot some asshole with a rap sheet a mile long . The courts will listen to what the lawyers and the jury say.
OK, you carry illegally; some teenie-bopper on her cell phone bumps you on your bike doing 55, and you get knocked the fuck out. Cops and ambulance find you carrying, and as soon as you are able haul you off to be booked.

After an ass pounding in holding cell, you're judged by 12 and made an example of. Next your ass pounded by the Feds, you lose your job, your home, and now you can't even look at a gun without your parole officer sending you back for more ass pounding.

Where were you in the right?

The chance of you getting caught illegally carrying is much, much higher than actually needing it, using it, and being exonerated.

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OK, you carry illegally; some teenie-bopper on her cell phone bumps you on your bike doing 55, and you get knocked the fuck out. Cops and ambulance find you carrying, and as soon as you are able haul you off to be booked.

After an ass pounding in holding cell, you're judged by 12 and made an example of. Next your ass pounded by the Feds, you lose your job, your home, and now you can't even look at a gun without your parole officer sending you back for more ass pounding.

Where were you in the right?

The chance of you getting caught illegally carrying is much, much higher than actually needing it, using it, and being exonerated.
Except for the Fed part.



unlawful use of a weapon is a Class A Misdemeanor, so you're eligible for up to a 364 day stay in the State pen.

There's no Federal crime involved, unless you're crossing state lines. If you do that, then you're big time and start talking felony.

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The chance of you getting caught illegally carrying is much, much higher than actually needing it, using it, and being exonerated.
...and the hassle of having to countersue the state to cover those pesky defense fees just makes it suck more.

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