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New Zombie gun?

http://slickguns.com/product/kel-tec...pump-shotgun-0
14 shot capacity...pretty slick if it's manageable and more importantly reliable.
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and apparently if you can load a 'normal' shotgun, this is just as easy. suweet

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Interesting design innovation... wonder how reliable it is.

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Gotta love Kel-Tec thinking outside the box. I dig the design but have a feeling that even with all the polymer, it's gonna be one hefty bitch when loaded.

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Kel-Tec KSG bullpup Shotgun
-Available 2011
-MSRP not yet set
-Yes, it's civilian legal (18.5" barrel, 26" OAL), identical size to the RFB, just a little wider.
-Cylinder bore, feeds 12 gage-2.75", 14+1 rounds. (barrel is chambered for 3" shells)
-manually switched dual-tube mag (7 rounds each mag), switch is behind the grip, at the front of the loading/ejection opening. Switch can be centered to un-chamber a round without re-chambering.
-bottom ejecting and loading

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-18.5" barrel
-26.1" Overal Length
-6.9" height
-3" Width (at pump)
-13" Length of pull (1" shorter than RFB)
-14+1 capacity (7 per mag tube)
-6.9lbs empty wieght
-9.5lbs loaded weight (buck shot I believe)



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-What happens when one tube is empty, does it automatically switch to the other?
No auto switching, you have to manually switch when one tube is empty.

-Why pump, and not semi-auto?
This is Kel-Tec's first shotgun, it makes sense to start with a pump first. Most semi-auto designs started as pumps. A pump is also legal in California and many other states that have gun bans.

-Can it accept chokes?
no, not currently. but barrels can be changed fairly easily, so perhaps in the future.

-How do you load each tube?
similar to other shotguns, but to make it easier, you can use gravity to help. If you want to load the right tube, switch the selector to the right, point the gun down and tilt it to the right. This makes the shells naturally point towards the right mag tube. Then just push each round in the tube until it clicks past the stop. With a little practice, you can do it without looking. To load the Left tube, move the switch to the left and tilt the gun to the let and load.

Description of design/controls:
-Square button above trigger guard is the safety (cross-bolt style)
-Lever n Front of the trigger guard is the pump latch. pull down to unlock and allow un-chambering or cycling without dropping the hammer (dropping the hammer automatically unlocks the pump in order the chamber the next round)
-Lever at front end of the ejection/loading port is the magazine selector. Left/Center/Right. Center position blocks both mags so you can un-chamber a round and not chamber a new one.
-2 assembly pins hold the grip on, they are retained by a spring clip in the pin. when they are removed they can be stored in the 2 holes in the grip.
-bolt is locked with a toggle-lock into the barrel extension. ejection/feeding is also similar to most shotguns with a fork like elevator/ejector
-carrier is attached to the pump via dual action rods
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That's 3lbs less than an FAL, not bad at all, I wonder how punishing it is to shoot and whether it will take a brake.

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cant wait to see what else the future will bring with this being the next step.

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That's 3lbs less than an FAL, not bad at all, I wonder how punishing it is to shoot and whether it will take a brake.
why would it be any worse than any other pump 12gs shotgun?

a brake?... muzzle break?

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a brake?... muzzle break?
Yes, a muzzle BRAKE...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzzle_brake
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It kinda reminds me of this:



Give me a 20" barrel with interchangeable chokes, and I'd rock it!

A neat thing about having the dual feeders is that you can load one up with shot and one with slugs, or whatever floats your boat.

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why would it be any worse than any other pump 12gs shotgun?

a brake?... muzzle break?
Muzzle brake, yes.

I don't know shotguns well, but from my experience, recoil greatly differs from one pump action to another even though it seems somewhat counter-intuitive.

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Reminds me of the Sateda weapon from stargate atlantis.


(genai using them in this shot)

and then was used in blade


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Why, they didn't try to hard looking for new weapons for Blade III huh?

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Might be a little to tacti-cool for me, but I love the idea. Today I had an incident with a neighbor that was being evicted. It got ugly, and the people getting evicted ran up a few times, rang my doorbell, and would run away. I loaded up my shottie, and wished I had something a little heavier than my 20ga pump. I plan on picking up an 870, and watching for this to hit production.
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6 rounds more than Kruz needs for Zombies.
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Might be a little to tacti-cool for me, but I love the idea. Today I had an incident with a neighbor that was being evicted. It got ugly, and the people getting evicted ran up a few times, rang my doorbell, and would run away. I loaded up my shottie, and wished I had something a little heavier than my 20ga pump. I plan on picking up an 870, and watching for this to hit production.
Judging it for being too tacti-cool in the same sentence you're talking about using a shotgun against people playing ding dong ditch?


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It was more than ding dong ditch. I'll tell ya the story over beers.
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Judging it for being too tacti-cool in the same sentence you're talking about using a shotgun against people playing ding dong ditch?

my thoughts exactly

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I'd shoot a bish over less.
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Haha, me too.

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I can confirm this story with Romeoville PD. The 911 call was hilarious to me.
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I want to try one, but wish it was semi-auto. Would make a cool alternative to a Saiga 12.

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You can get a 50 round drum for a Saiga 12, this is obviously just a pump w a tacticool design.
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Haha, me too.

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What sloppy ass shit. Tense, jerky, bouncing the trigger finger.

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6 rounds more than Kruz needs for Zombies.
Wasn't it Kruz that tore up the zombie shoot with the .45? That shit was hands down some of the best shooting of the day.

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