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I'm looking to take a class to get better with my handgun. I'd consider myself a "beginner", but I dont want to take a very basic class where they teach you safety and dont get into any skills building. I've put about 500 rounds through my first pistol (springfield XD(m) .45) I just want to see if I'm doing anything wrong so I dont build on bad habbits, etc..
I live in Schaumburg - is there anything nearby? I generally shoot at Illinois Gun Works, but I'd rather not take a class there as I think the owner and employees are generally assholes haha. Unfortunately they're the cheapest place I know of to shoot at.. plus they let me shoot my shotgun there.
Let me know what you think would be a good class for me to take.
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What skills are you looking to learn?

Do you simply want to shoot better? Do you want to learn holster usage? Do you want to learn defensive skills?

Depending on your answers, I would strongly recommend TD Roe & Bill Zeller, who run the Excel Training Group. They are associated with Article II and GAT Guns.

http://www.exceltraininggroup.com/

Look up their "Intermediate Handgun Skills Upgrade" class - I am guessing that class, or their "Introduction to Action Pistol Competition" would fit your needs best? Alternatively, you could probably set up private training with Bill or TD, to accomodate your exact needs.

I would strongly suggest that you e-mail TD. Tell her "Andy" sent you, explain what you wrote above, and she should be able to guide you further on what they can offer.
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Good stuff. If I can afford it after re-signing up for ASC, I should take a refresher course.

Andy, any idea what class would be good for me to sharpen my skills? We've gone head to head on the dueling tree, but you were pretty focused on losing to me. LOL

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Good stuff. If I can afford it after re-signing up for ASC, I should take a refresher course.

Andy, any idea what class would be good for me to sharpen my skills? We've gone head to head on the dueling tree, but you were pretty focused on losing to me. LOL
For you, either of Excel's Intermediate courses would be suitable.
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If you've just starting and never had any formal training I'd recommend the NRA Basic Pistol course. It is very basic and much of it is safety but you will develop good habits from it and will learn proper grip, stance, breath control, etc. I took it about 10 years ago when I first started shooting and I'm glad I did. I learned things the right way and developed good habits from the start.
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Ryan, I looked into the NRA classes a while ago, but if I'm remembering correctly they were around $350. I'm sure it's good training but I dont want to spend that much (plus the day off, ammo, gear, etc..).
I checked out the excell classes and I think I'm going to take the intermediate handgun upgrade class.
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I was considering becoming an NRA Certified Instructor. You think the classes cost a lot!

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Ryan, I looked into the NRA classes a while ago, but if I'm remembering correctly they were around $350. I'm sure it's good training but I dont want to spend that much (plus the day off, ammo, gear, etc..).
I checked out the excell classes and I think I'm going to take the intermediate handgun upgrade class.
I took the NRA Basic Pistol course through this guy: www.firearmsafetytraining.com/courses.html

It's called FIRST Steps Pistol on the website, price is listed at $100 if you bring your own gun. I took the class at Megasports, not sure if they're still doing it there.
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What's a good place to learn how to fire and maintain guns for someone who's new at this?

My only experience with guns is owning a BB gun when I was 10.
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What's a good place to learn how to fire and maintain guns for someone who's new at this?

My only experience with guns is owning a BB gun when I was 10.
Find an NRA Basic Skills class, like the one Ryan mentioned above.

For example, I know Maxon's offers them. They will teach you fundamentals, maintenance, etc.
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Jeff Denning runs a great pistol course that sounds like it's about your speed. A lot of basic drills but good fundamentals and some interesting close in work that combines pistol work and using your body to stop an assailant.

He runs an organization called Warrior SOS, their website appears to be down now, but his blog is still up. Not sure when he's running a course next but he's true blue. As long as you know how to unholster/reholster your weapon and don't muzzle sweep people, you'll be good to go. You can practice stuff like the holstering at home.

Buy this, study it, practice it and you'll have a good basis for a basic (not beginner) class.:
http://store.magpul.com/product/DYN004/76




Both Travis and Costa have broken away from Magpul Dynamics now, but they each have their own training companies either setup or in the process of being setup now. Either of those would be absolutely worth the money down the road, but they're a lot higher speed than you'll be at without a few classes under your belt.

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Shit, I didn't know they split from Magpul. Was it an amicable split?

You've taken several of their courses, right? I'd love to learn from them.

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Shit, I didn't know they split from Magpul. Was it an amicable split?

You've taken several of their courses, right? I'd love to learn from them.
Travis left a while ago, Chris just left a couple months back. It had been in the works for some time. It has been publicly amicable but I'm not sure how MD feels losing their head guy and the face/name of Magpul.


Here's Chris' new site:
http://costaludus.com/

He's a fantastic instructor and all around great dude, funny, personable, down to earth, not headstrong like you get with some of these guys, *cough* Vickers *cough*. Magpul picked up a guy named Steve (his last name escapes me now) to replace Travis a while back, he's ex Detroit SWAT, another great dude and FAST AS FUCK. I hate sounding like another Magpul fanboy (again), but their gear, theory and training are second to none these days. Expensive and time consuming, but take a couple of 'em and you could smoke 99.9% of the planet.

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I'd like to take some classes with either of those guys. I agree magpul theory based products just make sense. I'm glad to see Haley strategic is continuing that trend with his products.

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