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1 day- pistol $250 6 50.00%
2 day- pistol $400 1 8.33%
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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 01-05-2012, 09:21 PM Thread Starter
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Handgun Course Interest Feeler

Gauging interest for a beginner, not basic, pistol course run by the lead instructor from thr SCAR Training group.

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$250 per head

Max of 8 students.

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Just to be clear, I answered "No Interest," but that's because I suspect something "beginner" would not be beneficial to me.

I hope you can find an audience for this, who would be interested and benefit from this.

Perhaps if you were to list skills that your propsed class would be focusing on? Such as holster work, refining stationary marksmanship, etc.?
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ill do a beginner course

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This, like all courses would be ramped up(in terms of what is taught) based upon how fast the students learn and how safe people are with what's taught. FWIW, My mentality on courses is that at the very least, you're able to refine your skills at whatever speed you're comfortable.

This would be an outdoor course with a good amount of moving around obstacles like you'd run into during a home defense situation. Not a BS primer on handguns like most ranges offer, this would be dynamic and involve dealing with threatsin a handful of different environments.

I'll update the initial post as I'm on my phone but it will involve everything from weapons manipulation, reloads, clearing jams, drawing from holster, drawing down from low ready etx. If you want to learn how to defend your household or deal with threats in a concealed carry situation this is a great stater.

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That's a good price for that type of training. IMO any training on the basics is good for any level of skill. There is a reason coaches still teach fundamentals in the nfl, nba, NHL etc.

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We prolly be interested, you can never go wrong rehashing the basics, and I've always learned something useful no matter the skill level of the course.
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I am interested! voted pistol and rifle, but interested in any 1 day course
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I'd be interested in the 1 day.
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This, like all courses would be ramped up(in terms of what is taught) based upon how fast the students learn and how safe people are with what's taught. FWIW, My mentality on courses is that at the very least, you're able to refine your skills at whatever speed you're comfortable.

This would be an outdoor course with a good amount of moving around obstacles like you'd run into during a home defense situation. Not a BS primer on handguns like most ranges offer, this would be dynamic and involve dealing with threatsin a handful of different environments.

I'll update the initial post as I'm on my phone but it will involve everything from weapons manipulation, reloads, clearing jams, drawing from holster, drawing down from low ready etx. If you want to learn how to defend your household or deal with threats in a concealed carry situation this is a great stater.

Vigilance, discipline, accountability.

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Well, you did initially only state "beginner," which conveys something different than what you elaborated above.

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We prolly be interested, you can never go wrong rehashing the basics, and I've always learned something useful no matter the skill level of the course.
Given unlimited time and budget, I'd participate in everything I possibly could. I agree that something can always be learned or reinforced. But having to pick and choose, I'd rather focus on something that isn't quite "beginner." For me, it's all about evaluating ROI. But that's just me.


In either case, I'm glad you (SD) elaborated on what you are looking to offer. I would actually categorize much of that as intermediate skills, but now we're just splitting hairs over semantics.
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Interested depending of course on date and location.
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I'm interested. Seems a little more that just beginner. A course built around obstacles is something I'm interested in, depending on the date.

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SD,

Can you clarify the difference between "basic" and "beginner"? Is the course you are proposing the right place for someone with NO prior firearm experience or training?

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SD,

Can you clarify the difference between "basic" and "beginner"? Is the course you are proposing the right place for someone with NO prior firearm experience or training?

Basic courses are what they teach people who just purchased their first handgun. How to load a magazine, basic firearms safety, how to chamber a round, trigger pull, how to clean the piece, etc. Very entry level stuff to allow you to shoot the pistol for the first time w/o killing yourself or others.

This course, labeled Beginner but may be leaning more towards intermediate, would cover the basics of tactical handgun usage and what's listed above. If you know how your pistol works, have more than 500 rounds down range, own a quality pistol, an OWB holster, some belt/carrier mag pouches, you'll be fine.

A few things of note, if all you have is a POS Lorcin that jams every 3rd round or don't have a basic understanding on weapons manipulation (how to chamber a round without thinking about it, safety toggling, magazine loading, etc.), you probably want to buy/borrow another pistol and bone up on your skills before this course.

Classes progress as fast as the group can learn the skills being taught, if you're going to slow everyone down, people won't be getting as out of the class as they could. This doesn't mean you need to get everything right the first time, you'll be learning new skills and there will be some ramp up time before it sinks in. It does mean that you need to bring your A game, consider this a Track day or Racing school, show up ready to be safe, shoot well and learn how to better defend yourself and family.

Also worth note, I'm not teaching this course, just trying to gauge interest for the instructor; if I can get enough people in, he'll fly out for a few courses. I stand to gain nothing here aside from hooking CLSB up with a quality training course with personalized attention.

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Thanks SD. Then I'm not yet ready for this course.

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If you need an 8th and are not more than an hour away I'd toss my hat in the interested pile.
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