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Tax Return: Gun Shopping?

I'm getting an OK tax return that will allow me to pay off a credit card and still have a little left over..I'm thinking about purchasing a new firearm in the $550 range.

I've been pining over a Saiga with all the threads we have flying around here...but I know after getting the weapon, I'll probably be dumping another few hundred into making it look and perform how I want. I'm not sure I want to go down that expensive road just yet.

My other idea, is just a stupid fun gun like the Taurus Judge with the 3" chamber. It would give me the chance to use my home casted lead shot with the 45LC Cowboy loads, and make some custom .410 "Magnum" rounds with brass .410 shells.

What do you all think? And no, I can't afford both (yet). Any other fun guns in that range I might consider? I still have a 10 year old lower I've not done anything with...back from when Rock River was at their best...

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That is the ugliest lever action rifle I have ever seen. Some things should not be tactical-ized.
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LOL, I thought that was an April Fools joke. That's a "tactical" lever action 464? Awesome.

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Saiga....

Even in stock form it was awesome.
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Saiga....

Even in stock form it was awesome.
That's what I'm leaning towards now. And honestly, it seems like one of those things that might someday be banned, or modding it might be banned or something.

And Brianne said she wants another shotgun around the house...

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That is the ugliest lever action rifle I have ever seen. Some things should not be tactical-ized.
This guy does NOT approve of that weapon either.


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If I had any desire to learn to shoot like that, I'd be all over a mares leg lever action. There is an eyetalian company making a good one. Just not my thing.

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And Brianne said she wants another shotgun around the house...
most important, Make her happy!

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I say buy the Saiga12, sell the 10 yr old RRA parts and spend what's leftover on a conversion kit for the Saiga. The Saiga 12 I recently sold was an absolute blast. Overkill for just about any situation I can think of, but that's the point!

I think I'm going to end up oweing uncle sam this year because of some side jobs that I made a good amount of money on, but we'll see..
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saiga 12 + basic conversion will cost you $700 + FFL and shipping - not less

if it's in your range - get it for sure and add to it slowly
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saiga 12 + basic conversion will cost you $700 + FFL and shipping - not less

if it's in your range - get it for sure and add to it slowly
Cool, lets see how much I have then.

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Brianne said she wants another shotgun around the house...
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I would go with Tromix build for that money. less flashy, way more quality
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I'm pretty sure an SBS isn't legal in IL.

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It looks like CSS is sold out of Saiga 12 and the clear mags I wanted. So I guess I'll have to hold off for a bit. I had the CC out and ready to dent it. I'm starting a parts list at least.

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Support your local saiga dealers!

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Support your local saiga dealers!
Show me one with the shotgun and parts in stock!

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Show me one with the shotgun and parts in stock!
lol, where's the shopping list!

also,
http://www.mississippiautoarms.com/s...er-p-2705.html

5 in stock


but then ask them how to get the "saiga-12 forum discount to 550"
http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?...-or-499-for-2/

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GAT in Elgin has Saiga 12's in stock, plus a few parts but they're generally overpriced on that stuff in my opinion. I would much rather support local stores, but not if they aren't competitive.
I went there yesterday looking for some reloading supplies and was really disapointed. No 45 acp bullets, no brass, 1 choice in primers. I asked if they knew when they'd be getting more .45 FMJ bullets in and they said they dont know.. So I ended up going to the big box store (Cabelas) for primers & powder and ordered bullets online.
Back on topic..
I agree with Samal I'd go with a Tromix setup if you're ordering it converted already. Otherwise I'd buy the gun and the conversion kit and do it yourself.

I think my next purchase is going to either be a Daniel Defense DDm4V5, or a HK 45 handgun.
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I think my next purchase is going to either be a Daniel Defense DDm4V5, or a HK 45 handgun.

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ooof.... hard choice.

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So, I just saw this in my E-mail this morning. Maybe another option??

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A snippet from the article:

Last year at SHOT Show a new company called RAAC introduced a new design in magazine fed semi-auto shotgun, but they haven’t been available to the public until recently. It is an AR-15-ish design, but out of the box, AR-15 hardware doesn’t fit the gun. It does however look like an AR, and it comes with an M-16 like carry handle and front sight. The gun is called the MKA-1919, and… second drum roll of the week… the MSRP is $699 in the black, and $799 in the camo you see here, and they are available now.

The guns are made in Turkey, and from what I have seen in talking to the owners, the Turkish approach is very different than the way the Russians do business. These guns work great right out of the box, and the Turks have agreed to send a good supply of parts for the guns, unlike the Russians who won’t. This means the gun is probably here to stay, in personal defense, competition and the hunting market. Word on the street is that it is the gun to beat in all three categories in a semi-auto shotgun.

Already it is difficult for the dealers to keep the MKA-1919 on the shelves, so if your dealer doesn’t have any yet, just tell them that they can get them from one of several distributors for you, including RSR, Ellett Brothers, Horton, Acusport and Bill Hicks. Even though RAAC has a good regular supply from Turkey, I predict that they will quickly not be able to keep up with demand once the word is out.

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I'm thinking of a Ruler LC9 with some Galloway Precision parts in it. Shot my friend's this weekend and it's fun in a little package. Have not shot a stock trigger LC9 to compare though.

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Tommy gun. Very cool, historic and you can use it at any range since it uses 45 acp.

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Tommy gun. Very cool, historic and you can use it at any range since it uses 45 acp.
That is actually a very cool idea. I know I wanted one a long time ago...but seriously, I question the accuracy of a Tommy Gun.

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That is actually a very cool idea. I know I wanted one a long time ago...but seriously, I question the accuracy of a Tommy Gun.
A customer of mine has 3 of them, along with a bunch of other cool older guns. He keeps telling me he is going to take me to his buddy's farm to shoot some of his stuff but hasn't come through yet.
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That is actually a very cool idea. I know I wanted one a long time ago...but seriously, I question the accuracy of a Tommy Gun.
I have never heard the "Trench Broom" and accuracy mentioned in the same sentence.

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