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This is why you don't teacup a pistol

Kind of an extreme example...but I wonder why guys let their women shoot this way.

At least they only gave her one round...I've seen people not handle the pistol well, and the second round going off while the pistol was pointed back at their face.


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Why wouldn't they show her proper grip before she fired it? My buddy's goofball brother accidentally shot 2 rounds out of my S&W 629 once. He pulled the hammer back and fired the first shot single action, and quickly fired another round right after. I have no idea how he pulled that off with the second trigger pull being a long double action. My only guess is he released the trigger and panicked, squeezing his the gun with his whole right hand including the trigger finger. Luckily we were shooting outside on their uncle's farm and the gun was still pointed in a safe direction. Hindsight being 20/20, I probably should have only loaded one round for him.

Eric, what's the recoil like on the DE .50 compared to say a .44mag revolver with a fairly hot load? I'd imagine it's not too bad as big and heavy as they are?
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My 44 mag is a scary gun, the first time I fired it, It fired a bit before I planned. Luckily I follow good protocol and don't cover the trigger till I'm ready to fire. But friggin ponch as usual gave the gun about a .00005 lb trigger pull. you breath on it wrong, and bam!




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i bet if that was a cawk her grip would have been rock solid..lol



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My 44 mag is a scary gun, the first time I fired it, It fired a bit before I planned. Luckily I follow good protocol and don't cover the trigger till I'm ready to fire. But friggin ponch as usual gave the gun about a .00005 lb trigger pull. you breath on it wrong, and bam!
Mine had a pretty damn good trigger right from the factory. When I bought it at Megasports they had a Performance Center 629 there that I was also looking at (mine is just a regular 629 Classic). I dry fired both of them and the difference in the single action trigger pull between them wasn't enough for me to be able to tell the difference. I have people dry fire mine before they shoot it so they can see how little trigger movement it takes to fire it.
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Mine had a pretty damn good trigger right from the factory. When I bought it at Megasports they had a Performance Center 629 there that I was also looking at (mine is just a regular 629 Classic). I dry fired both of them and the difference in the single action trigger pull between them wasn't enough for me to be able to tell the difference. I have people dry fire mine before they shoot it so they can see how little trigger movement it takes to fire it.
absolutely, dry firing is very important.




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Eric, what's the recoil like on the DE .50 compared to say a .44mag revolver with a fairly hot load? I'd imagine it's not too bad as big and heavy as they are?
Two things in the DE's favor. #1, being heavy, #2, it's gas operated...so it handles the recoil better.

I'd say a .44mag revolver would kick your ass more than a DE .50AE. The .44mag DE is as easy to handle as a .45.

I wish I could find a good deal on a .44mag barrel for my DE.

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absolutely, dry firing is very important.
To bad most shops spazz about dry firing. Everyone thinks that it's the worst thing possible for a weapon. IMHO, most combat pistols and rifles are made to be dry fired repeatedly for practice. Granted, it's not 100% wear free, and older weapons and rimfires can be damaged by it. The problem is, most shops don't know what is safe and what is not so they error on the side of NO.

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Reverse dry fire is also good to practice. Helps with staying on target during rapid fire. I practice both.

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What is reverse dry fire? I've never heard of that before.

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I guess it's not really reverse, just the other side of dry fire practice. I practice knowing the point where the hammer is reset upon releasing the trigger. Less room for trigger pull error if you are only releasing the trigger to that point rather a full release. It doesn't work of course if your pistol is double action only. I've seen a lot of trigger slapping when people wanna shoot fast and are fully releasing the trigger. You only need that minimal release with a single action. I keep the trigger depressed and slowly release forward, when *it clicks*, I rack the slide and depress the trigger again setting up the drill again. When you get proficient you will know exactly how far to release the trigger to reset the hammer and fire another round. You should be able to run the drill very fast...of course this puts extra wear on your weapon.

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That's what I thought you were referring to. I call it follow through. I don't consider it proper dry fire without the follow through.

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Two things in the DE's favor. #1, being heavy, #2, it's gas operated...so it handles the recoil better.

I'd say a .44mag revolver would kick your ass more than a DE .50AE. The .44mag DE is as easy to handle as a .45.

I wish I could find a good deal on a .44mag barrel for my DE.


Pretty much. My brothers Ruger Super Blackhawk SA 9 3/8" .44mag recoils like a mule with my reloads. Factory ammo is a bit tamer but not much.

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I guess it's not really reverse, just the other side of dry fire practice. I practice knowing the point where the hammer is reset upon releasing the trigger.
The proper term for that is "trigger reset."

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That's what I thought you were referring to. I call it follow through. I don't consider it proper dry fire without the follow through.
Technically "follow-through" is completing the squeeze of the trigger, after the break. Much like completing a golf or baseball swing, even though you've already contacted the ball halfway through. Many newer shooters, after a trigger breaks, will let off the trigger immediately (regardless of where the trigger resets). This also goes against the whole "don't anticipate the break, focus only on squeezing the trigger" fundamental technique.
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The proper term for that is "trigger reset."



Technically "follow-through" is completing the squeeze of the trigger, after the break. Much like completing a golf or baseball swing, even though you've already contacted the ball halfway through. Many newer shooters, after a trigger breaks, will let off the trigger immediately (regardless of where the trigger resets). This also goes against the whole "don't anticipate the break, focus only on squeezing the trigger" fundamental technique.
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Man that shit happened to me years ago n my buddy, who's an Atlanta detective now, brought his casull .45 to the range. No matter what grip, recoil was a MF. Sounded like a cannon, too.

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