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.22 Rifle Advice

Hey guys, I've been toying with the idea of getting a .22 rifle for some cheap plinking, perhaps going "Ody" on some critters
There is a local store that seems to have decent selection, and reasonable prices (or so I think lol), having a hard time deciding on what is the best bang for the buck. Here is the list of what they have:

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I'm thinking $250 limit.

I know 10/22 has an amazing reputation, however I was wondering how picky it is about the ammo? Since it's semi-auto, was wondering if subsonic rounds would be problematic?

If anyone on here owns any of the rifles listed in the first link and has some opinions, I'd appreciate them
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10/22 , non better for the money . Never heard of them having feeding issues .
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For .22 rifle you have a plenty of options.
Ruger 10/22 will be most upgradable and reliable one.
Another one I would say Marlin 60 or 795 (I have 795 and like it a lot - paid only 125$)
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What they said, 10/22 all the way, can upgrade later if you feel like it.

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for semi-auto - 10/22, for bolt action and precision out of the box - CZ452, though a bit more than 250
I picked a bolt action mag fed CZ452 scout for my son to learn on - it's a pleasure to see him operate the bolt and he is learning on reacquiring sight picture.

Also he knows that he is not getting a scope any time soon, not until he will be grouping 5 shots in a quarter size at 25 yards with irons
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I have a friend that picked up a Marlin 795, and for the money it's awesome. Seriously, it's almost half the cost of the Ruger 10/22 and just as good.

That said, my choice would be Ruger 10/22 "all weather". It's the model with the plastic stock and "stainless steel" barrel and receiver. I've been shooting out in the rain, snow, and forgotten to clean it...treat it like a hot girlfriend that cheated on you, and it's had near flawless operation (I did have the extractor wear out on it prematurely which cost me $10 to fix with a better aftermarket part).

The 10/22 is a fun rifle because it's accurate out of the box, and you can build it up, or just leave it be and it's still fun. Seriously, you could spend $1500 (on a .22!) and really make a laser accurate, cheap to shoot rifle...or you could just pick a model with a pretty stock and use it till you die and leave it to your kids in your will.

Oh, and if you want a 10/22 that's a little more comfortable, and you don't plan on modding it, consider any of the 10/22 that come with the Hogue Overmold stock. It's a stock with a plastic core (so the receiver has a solid base to mount to) that's completely "overmolded" with a tough rubber. It's very comfortable, mid-weight, and you again don't have to worry about weather effecting the stock. It's more expensive than the base model 10/22 or the "all weather", but for a rifle your not going to modify, it's very good.

Edit to add: It looks like the Ruger All Weather are getting harder to come by. You might hit up a Walmart that carries rifles, they were the main seller of the 10/22 All Weather. But here is one on Gun Broker

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<<10-22 All weather here with a 3-9 Simmons scope and it is a very hard rifle to beat. One of these days I will pick up a standard and trick it out for precision, but they do a damn good job out of the box. The 10-22 has the absolute best aftermarket support to make it any type of configuration you could want.

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Looks like Ruger it is

Any ammo inputs/opinions?
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Looks like Ruger it is

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Yes , use .22 caliber long rifle ammo .
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CCI Stingers are pretty cheap and worked really well in my 10/22.

Aside from that, I shoot federal, it's a .22LR, you're not doing much outside of 50 yards and ammo isn't making much of a difference before then. At 100y you will see a difference with nice ammo though.

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Federal Champion/Lighting is good to go and can be picked up at Walmart

If you want super accuracy, get the Wolf Match Target which is $50 per 500 but really, really, really good.

In between those two, CCI MiniMag is a classic.

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I second the Federal rounds. They load smoother than others I've tried. They also extract better. You can usually find them in 550 round packs for under $20. Cabela's had them on Black Friday for $10 and then betwn Thanksgiving and Christmas for $15.

10/22 is the standard.

The Marlin is nice.

I own a Remington 597. The bolt rides on 2 guide rails and some suspect it's more accurate than the 10/22 because of that. I'll say it's hella accurate. HELLA!

The Remington 597 had some magazine feed problems when it first came out but I have the new gen mag and it feeds well. I picked up mine at Dicks Sporting Goods. It was on sale for $220 and at the time Remington had a $25 rebate. It has a laminate stock with thumb hole and the heavy barrel options.

I also have a AR15 that I use a 22 bolt kit with. The 22 conversion kit isn't all that accurate compared to the Rem597. I just use the kit when my friends want to shoot the AR and I don't feel like cleaning the standard bolt.

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I have a Marlin 25 that I love. Shoots shorts for "quieter" operation.

For semi-auto, I'd go Marlin 60.

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I own a Remington 597. The bolt rides on 2 guide rails and some suspect it's more accurate than the 10/22 because of that. I'll say it's hella accurate. HELLA!

The Remington 597 had some magazine feed problems when it first came out but I have the new gen mag and it feeds well. I picked up mine at Dicks Sporting Goods. It was on sale for $220 and at the time Remington had a $25 rebate. It has a laminate stock with thumb hole and the heavy barrel options.
I'm glad someone had luck with theirs, mine was a POS from the time I got it to the time it got traded. I tried everything to get it to function properly from trying new mags, different ammo. polishing the bolt, the rails and the inside of the receiver. I never got mine to run right, and to me that makes it worthless. While it was fairly accurate, I wouldn't say it was any more or less accurate than my 10-22. I will say that mine was a standard barrel, not bull as is my 10-22. YMMV

The other thing that turned me off with the 597 was the lack of aftermarket support. Compare that to the 10-22 and it comes up WAY short. I don't know about now, because after my experience I never looked at another one or what was available. I really wanted to like it, but it just came up short.

I'm not bashing the 597, just sharing my experiece.

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10/22 are great guns but you may have trouble getting subsonics to feed with out having to mod the action. I'm a big fan of CZ and have a CZ (513 or 512, can't remember) bolt action, it's CZ's entry level rifle but it is as accurate as any .22 I've every shot and it's in your price range.

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I'm not bashing the 597, just sharing my experiece.
No offense taken. I understand the frustration. My 597 seems to run fine. A few jams here and there but it seems to feed Federal ammo without complaints. Knowing what I know now, I'd probably go 10/22 but at the time the deal was too good to pass. Dick's even threw in an open item scope. They just needed the mount for another customer who was buying right then and there so they opened the packaging in front of me. I then turned around and asked them if they'd toss in the scope for $10 if I bought the rifle and the deal was sealed. They then went and found the proper mount I needed from their parts bin in the back office.

See, it proves you can negotiate anything. I talked them down from $280 to $220 for the rifle. The rebate of $25 on top of this price was from Remington so no skin off Dick's back for that. Then for $10 they tossed in a scope that retailed for $50. All told I was only out $205 for the whole setup.

This is something to consider when purchasing a firearm for plinking. If you are new to the sport start small. Buy a 10/22. The ammo is cheap and you can build it better over time when you decide if you enjoy the hobby and have time and money for it.

There isn't any need to immediately drop thousands into firearms. Pick up an inexpensive 22 and let the rest come to you in time.

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How does that scope work? I'd like to have a setup like that but not sure what scope to look at. Any suggestions?

BWA what version 10/22 are you going to get and where will you get it? GAT is the only place close to me but I'm not sure what to think of that shop yet.
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BWA what version 10/22 are you going to get and where will you get it? GAT is the only place close to me but I'm not sure what to think of that shop yet.
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BWA what version 10/22 are you going to get and where will you get it? GAT is the only place close to me but I'm not sure what to think of that shop yet.
GAT is good to go, they have everything on the shelf and you pay for that. They aren't cheap but they usually have what you are looking for.

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Yeah, GAT is about 15 minutes away from Cabelas. Brianne and I just did a tour of gun stores this Sunday while out running errands. GAT had some decent prices on some bulk ammo. Cabelas had an awesome sale on primers (I cleaned them out)

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