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What reloading equipment do you recommend?

I have not reloaded since I was a kid. My dad has Lyman products, and have served him well for years. I am loading 9mm and .38 for now, rifle cartridges at a later time. I am starting from nothing. What do you recommend I use, without breaking the bank? Speed of loading is not important, I guessing I will be loading less than 1k rounds a month.
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1k rounds a month is actually quite a bit...on a single stage.

That said, I'd recommend you get into the groove with a single stage press. Any one of them is good, but the top ones like Forster Co-Ax press will cost you.

If you want to go cheap (assuming you're planning on going progressive press in the future), then just get the Lee Classic Cast. Or, if you want a whole kit that has 98% of what you need, get the RCBS Rockchucker Deluxe kit.

IMHO, if you go progressive, one of the best right now is Hornady Lock n Load.

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I'm using a reloading book, and know not to push the limits. The loads I make are for target. I'm looking into a club that has both indoor and outdoor ranges, sounds pretty nice, and is $112 a year. Pretty reasonable IMHO.
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Reloading is easy. I use the rcbs rock chucker. Love it. I'd recommend a progressive press for handgun ammo. Like a lee.

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I had a Dillion Square B, loved it. But when I thought my shooting days were over I sold it. I have a Lee turret press now, and actually love, good quality at a low price. Switching calibers is super simple, and I can do rifle and pistol. Its not fast, but reloading to me has always be a relaxing affair.

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I'm probably going to get a Dillon 650 when i move to colorado.

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IMHO, if you go progressive, one of the best right now is Hornady Lock n Load.

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Okay I want to chime in.. If I want to reload 9mm and .223 or 5.56mm in particular what do I need? Dillion? Progressive? or RCBS?
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Okay I want to chime in.. If I want to reload 9mm and .223 or 5.56mm in particular what do I need? Dillion? Progressive? or RCBS?


Watch somebody reload first, then decide how deep in you want to jump in.
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I use a Lee press. Its 4 stage, and all you need to do is get the die's for the size bullet your reloading. I would also have a caliper on hand along with some scale whether its digital or dial. Every 10 rounds or so I would weigh the powder on the scale along with a quality check to make sure the bullet isn't to far into the shell or not far enough. Best I did was 500 rounds in about 3 hours. That includes putting primers in and everything. http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shoot...3Bcat104516280

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The lee press looks perfect. I'll add a few things (scale, etc) and report back when I get started.
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The lee press looks perfect. I'll add a few things (scale, etc) and report back when I get started.
Dave you can also get the Lee powder disc measure system, I have had good results with that.

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Okay I want to chime in.. If I want to reload 9mm and .223 or 5.56mm in particular what do I need? Dillion? Progressive? or RCBS?
I'm a fan of RCBS, but I still say in progressives the Hornady Lock N Load is a great piece of equipment. Dillion is good, assuming you have lots of money to spend.

For Single Stage, it's really all the same slow chunk-a-chunk of step by step processing brass. Single stage is great for learning the process, and/or precision rounds. Precision rifle pretty much requires a single stage.

That said, many people hate reloading .223 because you tend to go through more .223 then other rifle calibers, it's relatively cheap to buy (we'll see how long that lasts), and easy to get a hold of, plus there are a lot of extra steps and specialized equipment you need to properly reload rifle rounds. Rifle is a different animal than pistol due to necked down brass, brass stretching, higher power, etc.

Now, if you're willing to go through all the steps of processing your .223 brass, you can save 30%-40% reloading it yourself if you buy your components in bulk, and you can easily reload decent ammo on a progressive press, just like you would pistol rounds (assuming you process the brass).

So, if you're shooting a lot, willing to pony up the extra cash for equipment to process and maintain your .223 brass, and are shooting only pistol and .223, a progressive is a great choice.

Just using some very general round numbers. Lets say you drop $1000 on a balls out kick ass progressive reloading setup. Lets say you're a smart (bulk) component buyer and you save 50% on your reloads compared to great price on bulk factory ammo - so lets call it $100 per 1000 9mm and $150 per 1000 .223. It will take you (roughly) 5000 9mm and 3300 .223 (combined) to pay off your gear. Everything after that is cheap reloading.

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I should also add, that most reloaders find they don't save money when they go to a progressive press. Two things tend to happen: First - They find it's like a mechanic with new tools, you keep going out and buying new and specialized tools for the jobs...mostly because you like tools. Second, instead of saving 50% on ammo, you're shooting 100% more! LOL

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Good explanation there Lonely Raven. I knew I can count on you.

I have a lot of questions running thru my head right now but I don't wanna mess up the OP topic.
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i should also add, that most reloaders find they don't save money when they go to a progressive press. Two things tend to happen: First - they find it's like a mechanic with new tools, you keep going out and buying new and specialized tools for the jobs...mostly because you like tools. Second, instead of saving 50% on ammo, you're shooting 100% more! Lol
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Where do you guys do your reloading? Garage, basement...down by the river?

I don't seem to have a good safe spot with fresh air, minimal fire hazard, and for me kid safe.

Is it really worth the your time and these perils to save a dime a round? Or is it because you want custom loads?

Either way I dont see the advantage for me. I like to shoot, not make bullets.
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Where do you guys do your reloading? Garage, basement...down by the river?

I don't seem to have a good safe spot with fresh air, minimal fire hazard, and for me kid safe.

Is it really worth the your time and these perils to save a dime a round? Or is it because you want custom loads?

Either way I dont see the advantage for me. I like to shoot, not make bullets.

Are you in a closet with fireworks and a playpen in it??

I just do it in my garage, my sensei has a room in his basement that he has all of his presses in. Caution should be observed and common sense implemented but its not an unstable meth lab or anything.
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Make sure you have a rock solid bench, put doors on the lower portion with a lock. Make sure you have good lighting. I lock powders and primers in different cabinets. The cabinet with the primers and powder have 1/2" holes drilled in them, so if there is a fire you have a fire rather than a massive explosion.

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Either way I dont see the advantage for me. I like to shoot, not make bullets.
That's the key right there. Don't reload then. Buy lots of bullets and shoot.

I happen to enjoy reloading. I find it very relaxing, *me* time after a shitty day at work. And I have something to show for it at the end (unlike drinking LOL)
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Make sure you have a rock solid bench, put doors on the lower portion with a lock. Make sure you have good lighting. I lock powders and primers in different cabinets. The cabinet with the primers and powder have 1/2" holes drilled in them, so if there is a fire you have a fire rather than a massive explosion.
Wise words. I worry about people that store their primer and powders in their gun safe. Most modern safes have some sort of pressure outlet...but imagine 12lbs of powder in a well sealed safe!

That said, I really don't feel reloading is any more dangerous then any other tools and chemicals you have around the house. Just keep a clean work area and store safely, wear eye protection and be careful. Not a big deal.

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Don't over complicate common sense safety in the name of the kids. 6 feet up with reasonable deterents is all that is needed. Are the steak knives in the kitchen drawers dead bolted shut in the name of the kids? They are more dangerous in my opinion than primers. And powders.
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