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Reloading 223

Anyone reloading 223? I need pet loads, bullet weights and diameters, brass, what primers and powders are working best for you. I just fell into some once fire brass, great price too...free

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Right now my AR build is looking to use 9mm, but if it stays .223, I will be reloading.
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Right now my AR build is looking to use 9mm, but if it stays .223, I will be reloading.
why wouldn't you reload in either caliber? I reload every caliber from 9x18 Mak thru 8mm Mauser and all the strange ones in between.

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Pet loads are going to be different for every rifle.

I can tell you I'm very happy with the new Hodgdon CFE-223 powder. It runs a little pricey compared to other powders, but meters very well, is less heat sensitive than most, and actually does minimize barrel fowling. I also have several other powders I'm going to put up against the CFE and see what gets me the most consistency.

For bulk shooting I'm trying out some 55gr military pulls (non-ap), some Hodgden 55gr bulk boxes that you can purchase in 6k lots, and for precision the Hornady Z-max (Zombie Max) projectiles are great! Though I'm still developing a load for each...I have some ladder tests coming up this weekend if it's not too hot.

After I do some ladder tests, I'll have some ideas of what my rifle likes and I'll post them here.

Firebretha has a pet load, but I don't think he's had the time to do any documentation. They just simply shoot around 1.5MOA or so.

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why wouldn't you reload in either caliber? I reload every caliber from 9x18 Mak thru 8mm Mauser and all the strange ones in between.
Our carry weapons are both 9mm, it's cheap to shoot, and I can shoot it at the pistol range. I do have a bolt action .223 for varment, I'll ask my brother to send me my dies and I'll give them a try.
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Pet loads are going to be different for every rifle.

I can tell you I'm very happy with the new Hodgdon CFE-223 powder. It runs a little pricey compared to other powders, but meters very well, is less heat sensitive than most, and actually does minimize barrel fowling. I also have several other powders I'm going to put up against the CFE and see what gets me the most consistency.

For bulk shooting I'm trying out some 55gr military pulls (non-ap), some Hodgden 55gr bulk boxes that you can purchase in 6k lots, and for precision the Hornady Z-max (Zombie Max) projectiles are great! Though I'm still developing a load for each...I have some ladder tests coming up this weekend if it's not too hot.

After I do some ladder tests, I'll have some ideas of what my rifle likes and I'll post them here.

Firebretha has a pet load, but I don't think he's had the time to do any documentation. They just simply shoot around 1.5MOA or so.
Erci I know every gun is different What I'm looking for are bullet weight, bullet diameter, .223 or .224, and powders. I want a starting point, instead of experimenting with 6 different things in the load chain. It took me forever to figure out a good load for the 9x18 MAK, who knew it would be 4.3g of Unique, with a small rifle primer, 95 grain XTP JHP and Starline brass, I will post up pictures of the recovered bullet from the gel which I made. I hate putzing around with several types of powders, primers and brass. So I will pick up a pound of CFE, what did you use for primers? How many grains are you using.

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I will be loading 223 when i get to Denver. Not sure what recipe I'm going to use yet though. I need to get a progressive press first. i'm planning on shooting a lot of .223 in the future.

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Erci I know every gun is different What I'm looking for are bullet weight, bullet diameter, .223 or .224, and powders. I want a starting point, instead of experimenting with 6 different things in the load chain. It took me forever to figure out a good load for the 9x18 MAK, who knew it would be 4.3g of Unique, with a small rifle primer, 95 grain XTP JHP and Starline brass, I will post up pictures of the recovered bullet from the gel which I made. I hate putzing around with several types of powders, primers and brass. So I will pick up a pound of CFE, what did you use for primers? How many grains are you using.
Starting point? That's what reloading manuals are for.

All jacketed bullets should be .224

Brass can make a difference depending on if it's commercial or military. Military typically has thicker sidewalls and needs a reduced load.

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I used to reload .223 for years and actually gave away my reloading stuff here on the site when I first joined. Unfortunately, my notes for loads were in the books I gave away with the set up.

Check with Ody to see if he still has my progressive rig and the dies for .223. I believe I put all the load notes in the Hornady book.

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Starting point? That's what reloading manuals are for.

All jacketed bullets should be .224

Brass can make a difference depending on if it's commercial or military. Military typically has thicker sidewalls and needs a reduced load.
Reloading manuals are so anemic in their load data I have giving up on them. They load chain is so conservative its not even funny, try to find load data from any pistol round with small rifle primers, it doesn't exist. An old timer told me about the rifle primer trick. You did answer my question tho about .223 vs .224 bullet diameter.

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Disclaimer: What is safe in my rifles may not be safe in yours. Work loads up.

my 1-9 26" savage likes the following

69grain sierra matchking
Rem Brass
Varget 26.2gr
C.O.L. 2.280

55grain sierra varminter spitzer 1360
Rem Brass
Win748 26gr
C.O.L. 2.260

53grain Hornady V-max
Rem Brass
Varget 28gr
C.O.L. 2.285

Military Brass will probably be .5-1 grain under these loads

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Disclaimer: What is safe in my rifles may not be safe in yours. Work loads up.

my 1-9 26" savage likes the following

69grain sierra matchking
Rem Brass
Varget 26.2gr
C.O.L. 2.280

55grain sierra varminter spitzer 1360
Rem Brass
Win748 26gr
C.O.L. 2.260

53grain Hornady V-max
Rem Brass
Varget 28gr
C.O.L. 2.285

Military Brass will probably be .5-1 grain under these loads
+1 Thanks Jesse, at least I have a realistic starting point.

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oh forgot to add all with CCI 400 primers
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