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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 07-11-2012, 07:19 PM Thread Starter
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Need ideas on mounting a light on a pistol without a rail

Mandy carries a SCCY, and is very happy with the weapon. We are thinking about buying a second one for her to use strictly for home defense. My G19 has a nice light on it, and naturally Glock has a rail. The SCCY is designed for carry and self defense, and does not have a rail. If the lower half of the pistol were metal, I imagine drilling and tapping it would be fine, but the lower on the SCCY is polymer. So, here is the question, how to attach a light. I have used a trigger guard light and laser, and they both sucked. I'm open to epoxying a rail on, then attaching a light to it. Any other ideas?

And yes, a pistol might not be ideal for home defense, but we also have other weapons.

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How I would like her pistol to look like when it's done.



Also, any recommendation on a small light or light/laser combo is welcome.

I like the look of the gun. Works very well, light, and 10 +1 chambered in 9mm.


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Why would you carry with a light attached?
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That is why she is buying a second one, it will have a light on it. Her daily carry will not. You are not excused, it was stated in the second sentence.
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I could have Gus (Resurrection) create a rail, but how to mount metal to plastic is my question.
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Get her a SureFire light. She holds that in her left hand supporting the weapon with the top of her wrist, aiming with her right. Left thumb engages light, right finger executes invader.

I think this was called the Harris technique, but it's been a long damn time since the Cadres taught us.


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Get her a SureFire light. She holds that in her left hand supporting the weapon with the top of her wrist, aiming with her right. Left thumb engages light, right finger executes invader.

I think this was called the Harris technique, but it's been a long damn time since the Cadres taught us.


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It would, except she would have to switch hands if she wanted to shoot with her dominant hand. Darn Lefties. Seriously, due to medical problems, a light on the weapon would be best for her. I'd rather her use what she wants and is comfortable with it. So I'm not going to debate what weapon is best. Simply how to make a weapon she likes more useable.

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figure eight type clamp around the light and into the recessed detail on the gun.
Two small screws holding it together in the center of the clamp.Dip it in the rubber stuff.

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Makes sense Gus. I was hoping you would chime in. I'll know more once I find the light. She got her SCCY for $300 otd. Awesome value, IMHO. The Gen 1 sucked, the Gen 2 are much better. They are made in Daytona Beach, nice to have the company so close to us.
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Ohhhhh a nice bright light to shoot at......awesome!

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Ohhhhh a nice bright light to shoot at......awesome!
Actually in Tactical Pistol and Home Defense classes they teach you to use a powerful flashlight for two reasons:

#1 To ID the person you're about to shoot

#2 A sudden blast of light is extremely disorientating to the invader and gives you a couple seconds to make a decision and act

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Ohhhhh a nice bright light to shoot at......awesome!
If you don't train properly on how to use the flashlight you would be correct Rick.

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Actually in Tactical Pistol and Home Defense classes they teach you to use a powerful flashlight for two reasons:

#1 To ID the person you're about to shoot

#2 A sudden blast of light is extremely disorientating to the invader and gives you a couple seconds to make a decision and act
I prefer the sweep method if I were to have to clear rooms, it does both of what you stated and keeps you at an advantage. A good powerful flashlight is a necessity if you have to clear your house at night.

Dave if Mandy hasn't already done some training with one in the sweep method, either look it up and practice it with her or get her some training.

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Craig, there is a school down the street from us that teaches all kinds of firearms training. It's the same place we did our CCW at. As soon as she is healed up, we will attend some classes. Better to spend $300 on training and $300 on a pistol than $600 on a pistol and not know the best way to use it.
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Better to spend $300 on training and $300 on a pistol than $600 on a pistol and not know the best way to use it.
*better to spend $600 on a pistol and $300 on training.


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Simply meant an awesome weapon is useless without training.
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Simply meant an awesome weapon is useless without training.

quite true.


but srsly, buy a different piece and train on it.

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Actually in Tactical Pistol and Home Defense classes they teach you to use a powerful flashlight for two reasons:

#1 To ID the person you're about to shoot

#2 A sudden blast of light is extremely disorientating to the invader and gives you a couple seconds to make a decision and act
Mmmmm I don't know Eric, clearing a room or house is stupid, period. The drill is 911 and barricade. I'm old school and learned long time ago in the Army 2 important things 1) Never make yourself a target 2) tracers work both ways. Lights of any source draws fire....actually so does sound. I do understand what you are saying about identification and confusion. But like I said I must be the only guy on CLSB that doesn't have a zombie killing setup and still likes wheel guns for self defense.

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I agree with calling 911 and barricading, but before I take a shot, I want to know exactially what and whom I am shooting. Oh, and I also don't have a zombie weapon. Yet.
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