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My first pistol... XD 9mm Service

I already shot about 500 rds in 2-3 weeks and loving it. Shot mostly American Eagle and Champion ammo but if anyone has advice on what to buy in bulk I'm all ears.
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For mundane range ammunition, just shoot whatever works & fits your budget.

I shoot Blazer almost exclusively, since it is usually one of the least expensive brands available.
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For mundane range ammunition, just shoot whatever works & fits your budget.

I shoot Blazer almost exclusively, since it is usually one of the least expensive brands available.
This...on occasion I find federal at the same price or lower, but that is rare.

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What is the price of Blazer and where do you guys buy? I've been getting Am Eagle at Cabellas for $15 but mostly Federal Champion for $12ish/box at Walmart. I'm thinking about getting a case of 1000rds from bulkammo... Am Eagle 124gr is $240 shipped, so ends up being $12/50rd

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I believe there is a thread somewhere around here discussing various vendors, search for it. Of the top of my head: natchezss, palmetto, grafs.

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My Glock 19 eats whatever I put through it. But at the range, Blazer and Russian surplus is what I use. For carry, I use Hornaday critical defense and Hornaday zombie (it was on sale, honest). Hornaday is around $1 a shot, but well worth it if I need to use it.
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What is the price of Blazer and where do you guys buy? I've been getting Am Eagle at Cabellas for $15 but mostly Federal Champion for $12ish/box at Walmart. I'm thinking about getting a case of 1000rds from bulkammo... Am Eagle 124gr is $240 shipped, so ends up being $12/50rd
For 9mm you shouldn't be paying more than $215 per 1k.

Check out http://www.sgammo.com/

They often get great warehouse deals that you have to grab fast or their gone for good.

I bought some +P+ from the early 90's that had been on a shelf in some police department...and the department traded it all in towards a discount on new stuff. It was nice JHP +P+ that I got for less than Winchester White Box. But when I went back at the end of the week it was already gone.

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I love my old XD 9mm by the way. Mine has over 20k rounds through it.

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I love my old XD 9mm by the way. Mine has over 20k rounds through it.
Damn LR, that is some serious shooting, over how many years?

I do love my XDm in 9mm as well, I would have to look up my bank records to see how many rounds went through mine, but I would speculate only ~3K.

I've been planning on getting some trigger work done on it for about a year, its just not on top of my to do list.

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I was part of the group that imported the very first XD's to the states from Croatia. Back then it was called the HS2000. I figure I've had mine for 11-12 years, and most of the shooting was the first few years of my reloading around that same time. I reloaded 9mm (didn't save me much back then) and .357 SIG for my SIG 229 which saved me a crapton compared to how much .357 SIG is then and now.

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Excellent choice on the gun. Love my XD. That gun will shoot any ammo and love it. I used Winchester white box stuff.

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I want to purchase the Amer Eagle 115gr 1000rd from sgammo.com but looks like they won't ship to Chicago. Anyone here plan on ordering from them and can throw this in for me? I'll leave a cash deposit if need be or whatever, just hate all the damn Chicago restrictions!

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I want to purchase the Amer Eagle 115gr 1000rd from sgammo.com but looks like they won't ship to Chicago. Anyone here plan on ordering from them and can throw this in for me? I'll leave a cash deposit if need be or whatever, just hate all the damn Chicago restrictions!
try ammunitiontogo.com, and yes they will ship to chicago
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try ammunitiontogo.com, and yes they will ship to chicago
Just looked and it's $30 more from them compared to sgammo.

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My Glock 19 eats whatever I put through it. But at the range, Blazer and Russian surplus is what I use. For carry, I use Hornaday critical defense and Hornaday zombie (it was on sale, honest). Hornaday is around $1 a shot, but well worth it if I need to use it.
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Unrelated to the topic, be careful about using zombiemax for a carry gun. If you ever have to use it, the other lawyer will have a field day with that fact in the resulting civil case
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If I'm not mistaken Hornady's ZombieMax is identical to their premium or "match-grade" ammo, the only difference is the marketing and the cardboard box they're put in.

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If I'm not mistaken Hornady's ZombieMax is identical to their premium or "match-grade" ammo, the only difference is the marketing and the cardboard box they're put in.
No, it's the same as the Critical Defense ammo.

Honestly, the chance of someone actually needing the ammo to defend themselves is (thankfully) slim - the chance of it then coming up as an issue in court is also slim...and if it does, a simple "it was on sale" is probably good enough.

I hear the same thing about "reloads for personal defense" all the time. "oh, you shouldn't do that because the defense attorney will say that you made *special man killing ammo*"

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I hear the same thing about "reloads for personal defense" all the time. "oh, you shouldn't do that because the defense attorney will say that you made *special man killing ammo*"
Woops, Got the magazines mixed up, I meant to use the zombie killing ammo!
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One thing where I will stray from the "it doesn't matter" category is if you dig up some old "Black Talon" or the like. The stuff was banned or simply pulled from shelves because of some media BS about it being armor piercing or some such shit. So if your caught using something pulled from the shelves, then I could see there being questions. "You had to really go out of your way to get this Black Talon ammo that hasn't been made since the early 90s and costs $4 a round" - that would catch you in some shit in court.

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I'm too broke right now (and sitting on 6k of 9mm) otherwise I'd help.
Thanks for the offer bud. I just emailed sgammo and they said they can ship it to me to an address outside Chicago, so I'm just going to order and send to a friend's address.

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haha, but it specifically says its not for humans!


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Disclaimer: Hornady® Zombie Max™ ammunition is NOT a toy (IT IS LIVE AMMUNITION), but is intended only to be used on…ZOMBIES, also known as the living dead, undead, etc. No human being, plant, animal, vegetable or mineral should ever be shot with Hornady® Zombie Max™ ammunition. Again, we repeat, Hornady® Zombie Max™ ammunition is for use on ZOMBIES ONLY, and that's not a nickname, phrase or cute way of referring to anybody, place or thing. When we say Zombies, we mean…ZOMBIES!
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No, it's the same as the Critical Defense ammo.
Thank you for the correction, I knew they were from Hornady's existing line with different boxes and marketing.

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If you are getting into shooting you really should start thinking about reloading. I reload for every gun I own (except 22), I don't care how cheap you can buy ammo, in the long run reloading will work out as cheap, if not cheaper and you'll learn a hell of a lot about your gun and shooting in general. I'm a bit of a snob, if you are not reloading, you are not a "shooter" you are just someone blasting away. I shot a IDPA match last month and picked up a nice little tip from FastBeemer, who also reloads, you learn something every time you reload. SAVE your brass! It's worth money! Even if you are not reloading now, you might want to in the future. Nice gun BTW

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If you are getting into shooting you really should start thinking about reloading. I reload for every gun I own (except 22), I don't care how cheap you can buy ammo, in the long run reloading will work out as cheap, if not cheaper and you'll learn a hell of a lot about your gun and shooting in general. I'm a bit of a snob, if you are not reloading, you are not a "shooter" you are just someone blasting away. I shot a IDPA match last month and picked up a nice little tip from FastBeemer, who also reloads, you learn something every time you reload. SAVE your brass! It's worth money! Even if you are not reloading now, you might want to in the future. Nice gun BTW
I'll probably look into reloading if I start going to the range a lot. Just buying in bulk this time so I have it around when I go to the range, which will be maybe 1-2 times per month.

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I'll probably look into reloading if I start going to the range a lot. Just buying in bulk this time so I have it around when I go to the range, which will be maybe 1-2 times per month.
Ivan you'll find out, like my wife did, shooting is addictive Save your brass I even save brass for guns that I don't own I was picking up 9mm and 40 brass on my hike today (I'm in Wyoming) I use to have a Sig P226 and a 40, so I might buy one of each again

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Ivan you'll find out, like my wife did, shooting is addictive Save your brass I even save brass for guns that I don't own I was picking up 9mm and 40 brass on my hike today (I'm in Wyoming) I use to have a Sig P226 and a 40, so I might buy one of each again
Oh I already found it's addicting, but simply don't have the time/money to shoot enough to think about reloading. However, I will probably start saving the brass for when I do. Do you have any good links for info on how to get into it and what I would need? Thanks.

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Oh I already found it's addicting, but simply don't have the time/money to shoot enough to think about reloading. However, I will probably start saving the brass for when I do. Do you have any good links for info on how to get into it and what I would need? Thanks.
Ivan you can't go wrong with Dillon Presses, the 550 is great http://www.dillonprecision.com/#/con...0_Basic_Loader

I also like Lee Presses, I started using Lee Presses (I have 2) back in the 90's because no one had 9x18 MAK dies or 7.62x54R dies. With Dillion you are stuck using their dies (that have might of changed now). With Lee you can use anyone's standard dies. I like the Lee Classic Turret press http://leeprecision.com/classic-turret-press-kit.html that's everything you need...I mean everything! The press alone run $95. I didn't search for best prices (too lazy ) I figure you can do that

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Oh I already found it's addicting, but simply don't have the time/money to shoot enough to think about reloading. However, I will probably start saving the brass for when I do. Do you have any good links for info on how to get into it and what I would need? Thanks.
Lonelyraven is a good brain to pick about re-loading, he's really anal retentive about most things Hesus he must spend hours polishing his brass, I suspect by hand Eric speaks in plain language too, that's why I like him.

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