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You are dreaming, Chicago will tie up permit issues in a million different ways, and the 10K fine is nothing to the city, they will increase taxes somewhere else to create a slush fund to pay the fines.

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It provides for home rule exemption.... at least when I was reading it last night, but the bill is changing so quickly right now. Chicago can do what it wants either way probably but the state itself has until July (?) to get going on CC.

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You are dreaming, Chicago will tie up permit issues in a million different ways, and the 10K fine is nothing to the city, they will increase taxes somewhere else to create a slush fund to pay the fines.
I think the 10k fine is per incident per day,as in hundreds of thousands a day if they're blocking them all.
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http://ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext...Sess=&Session=

I thought you guys might like a direct link to the bill. Interesting...

I'll let the OCD gang go through it in detail, but I noticed they are only looking to charge $25 for the card and there is manditory training.

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Thanks - the full text had not yet been posted yesterday, when news first broke. Going to read it in full now.
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For a quick scan, it looks OK.

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All in all, this is a typical Conceal Carry Bill.

Interesting things of note:

- This is a SHALL ISSUE law. Meaning that IL State Police carry the burden of proof in finding a reason to deny a permit application.

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Any Illinois resident who has a license or permit to carry a handgun issued by another state shall be able to carry a handgun in accordance with this Act using that license for 180 days following the effective date of this Act.
So if you have a non-resident CCW for another state, you have a 90 day grace period from the date that this takes effect, meaning you can carry "immediately."

Reasons for application denial include:

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2 or more convictions for driving while under the influence or driving while intoxicated;
Fingerprinting may be requested as part of the application process.

If stopped by Law Enforcement:

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If a law enforcement officer initiates an investigative stop, including but not limited to a traffic stop, of a licensee who is carrying a concealed firearm, the licensee shall disclose as soon as reasonably possible to the officer that he or she is in possession of a concealed firearm under this Act.
Here's the training requirements:

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Applicant training.
(a) Applicants shall provide proof of completion of at least one of the following courses:
(1) NRA Basic Personal Protection In The Home Course.
(2) NRA Basics of Personal Protection Outside The Home Course.
(3) NRA Basic Pistol Shooting Course.
(4) Any other firearms training course of at least 4 hours that covers the following:
(A) handgun safety in the classroom, at home, on the firing range, and while carrying the firearm;
(B) the basic principles of marksmanship;
(C) care and cleaning of handguns;
(D) laws relating to the justifiable use of force.
Live fire exam requirements are trivial:

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Applicants shall provide proof of certification by a certified instructor that the applicant passed a live fire exercise with a handgun consisting of:
(1) a minimum of 30 rounds; and
(2) 20 rounds from a distance of 7 yards and 10 rounds from a distance of 15 yards at a B-21 silhouette or equivalent target as approved by the Department.
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I think the 10k fine is per incident per day,as in hundreds of thousands a day if they're blocking them all.
They have already cut huge checks to the NRA/ISRA for lost court battles. They don't care its our tax dollars.

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You are dreaming, Chicago will tie up permit issues in a million different ways, and the 10K fine is nothing to the city, they will increase taxes somewhere else to create a slush fund to pay the fines.


Stop being so negative kyle!
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Live fire exam requirements are trivial:
That eliminates 70% of the jokers on this board. I feel much safer.

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Fuggin A Doodle, I gotta pull my DD 214:

Persons with the following training or certifications
19 are exempt from the requirements of subsection (a) of this
20 Section:
21 (1) An NRA certified instructor.
22 (2) An individual who has qualified to carry a firearm
23 as a retired law enforcement officer.
24 (3) Any active, retired, or honorably discharged
25 member of the armed forces who held a combat related
26 military occupation specialty (MOS).


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Andy , thanks for breaking it down .
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andy , thanks for breaking it down .
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So, my tour of duty in Nam does not qualify me because I did not have a combat mos?


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Crap my 67N MOS, I doubt is considered a combat MOS. Oh well...

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