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$220 cash including transfer. Figured I should offer it up to CLSB'rs first.

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Rule #1: Never tell Firebretha and LR lowers are in stock somewhere.

Rule #2: Don't order from Brownells because they will back order your stuff for months, then send you an email stating, "Sorry, we sold units out of order, but we fixed it and hope to fill your order in 2013."

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Rule #1: Never tell Firebretha and LR lowers are in stock somewhere.

Rule #2: Don't order from Brownells because they will back order your stuff for months, then send you an email stating, "Sorry, we sold units out of order, but we fixed it and hope to fill your order in 2013."

Rule #3: Bitch about it on the Internet.

Sorry dude. We call that Dave13ing someone now. I think it's happened more than once. But it was Brownells fault, not ours.

Just look at the Hitler PMAG video. You weren't the only one!

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No big, I'll get it when it comes in. I'm still waiting on the tax stamp for the SBR.
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No big, I'll get it when it comes in. I'm still waiting on the tax stamp for the SBR.
I'm working on SBR next as well. It's going to be a long process, but I should have it by the end of the year if all goes well.

...or possibly be in court. We'll see which direction it goes.

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Put in your renewal application ASAP! It's taking over 60 days to get the renewal to go through.

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Put in your renewal application ASAP! It's taking over 60 days to get the renewal to go through.
Yeah, dumb move on my part! I didn't even notice it was expired till I went to the range with my dad one time. Worse case I can have him purchase it for me. I don't know anything about Seekins though. Want to check them out some. I've been out of this world for some time now, excuse my ignorance. I'd like to build good zombie weapon though!

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Yeah, dumb move on my part! I didn't even notice it was expired till I went to the range with my dad one time. Worse case I can have him purchase it for me. I don't know anything about Seekins though. Want to check them out some. I've been out of this world for some time now, excuse my ignorance. I'd like to build good zombie weapon though!
When it comes to forged lowers, they are all pretty much the same. Though poor machining can make a poorly fitted or non-functional lower. What really sets one forging apart from another is that fit and finish. Seekins adds a few cosmetic tweaks, a few updates to the standard design, and has some of the best fit and finish out there. Definitely top tier gear. Their billet stuff is even better.

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When it comes to forged lowers, they are all pretty much the same. Though poor machining can make a poorly fitted or non-functional lower. What really sets one forging apart from another is that fit and finish. Seekins adds a few cosmetic tweaks, a few updates to the standard design, and has some of the best fit and finish out there. Definitely top tier gear. Their billet stuff is even better.
thanks! This is something I can build on without sending out for machining right? What would be the benefit of starting with a billet lower rather than forged, other than bling?

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Don't know much about these, but I'd like to build something here

Get over to my place ASAP so you can play with some toys and see what you like. That way we can make a "Build Box" for you.
As parts become available we can let you know and order up as you can afford em and then can build it when everythings in!

I have 3 build boxes going for diff folks right now. Not including mine

I figure this way for the difficult stuff you can also back order and we can get discounted. etc.

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thanks! This is something I can build on without sending out for machining right? What would be the benefit of starting with a billet lower rather than forged, other than bling?
bling, and money to burn.

The billets are selling for 650$


No machining needed, just some specialized tools to put it together properly.

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thanks! This is something I can build on without sending out for machining right? What would be the benefit of starting with a billet lower rather than forged, other than bling?
Billet is non-milspec bling. Good luck finding anything billet these days for reasonable prices. I have one Seekins billet lower, and it's beautiful. It's going to be my pretty rifle. The two Seekins forged lowers are going to be AR Pistol and SBR if all goes well.

Right now, the key is securing lowers and magazines. The lower insures you have the "gun", and Magazines are probably what's going to be banned if anything is. Everything after that is just pieces and parts. There are some small specialized tools needed to build up an AR, but no machining or anything.

Like Rick said, you can secure your AR, then just build it up. I've got 3-4 builds in progress, just waiting on parts to show up, and/or funds to buy said parts.

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This is all good info! Thanks for helping me out with this. I have a few other guns and did a lot of shooting 4-5 years ago. I used to shoot a lot of trap and did some 3 gun competition while I was a member at a club out near me. Havent done much in a while so I'm out of the loop here! I always wanted an AR for home/self defense and for fun. It always seemed to be on the back burner with other guns or hobbies. It's time now...

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LOL now is a TERRIBLE time to build an AR! With all the panic buying, pricing and availability sucks. But, I'm sure we can still make it happen. Check out our page if you haven't yet (in my sig file)

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LOL now is a TERRIBLE time to build an AR! With all the panic buying, pricing and availability sucks. But, I'm sure we can still make it happen. Check out our page if you haven't yet (in my sig file)
Yup, I'm aware! LOL I'm not under enormous pressure to get it done or anything so I can be patient.

I did check out your page. I shot a PM to Firebreatha to see if you guys had a shop and check on hours or what I need to do to stop by.

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i have an extra lower i built a few years ago, looking to get a 20" upper for it ( have a 16 allready), flattop for a scope, should i try for a complete upper or buy parts? i built several lowers but have not messed with an upper yet
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i have an extra lower i built a few years ago, looking to get a 20" upper for it ( have a 16 allready), flattop for a scope, should i try for a complete upper or buy parts? i built several lowers but have not messed with an upper yet
upper is a whole diff boat. Lower you do not need any specific tools aside from the buffer tube wrench. The upper you will need a clamp or an internal clamp.
(or can redneck it with some 2x4s and a vise)
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And i think thats about it. If you plan on building a bunch its not a horrible investment, but if not. Not worth the added cost to do one. or scratching up your stuff while doing some ghetto rigging.

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upper is a whole diff boat. Lower you do not need any specific tools aside from the buffer tube wrench. The upper you will need a clamp or an internal clamp.
(or can redneck it with some 2x4s and a vise)
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i have an extra lower i built a few years ago, looking to get a 20" upper for it ( have a 16 allready), flattop for a scope, should i try for a complete upper or buy parts? i built several lowers but have not messed with an upper yet
Yeah, you'd totally be able to redneck it if you wanted to build your own upper. I figure you've probably got all the rest of the tools (keep in mind the crowsfoot you need is really large - we had to special order our set)

That said, if you can find a quality name brand upper in stock, I'd jump on it. Something like the Daniel Defense uppers, Spikes or Seekins. It's unlikely you'll find 20" uppers available though, since most people buy (and manufacturers focus on) 16" uppers or 14.5" uppers with welded on muzzle device to get it to 16". I had trouble finding an 18" in stock that I liked, and this was before the panic buying, so I just built my own.

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My barrel is 10.5 in length, and the suppressor makes it about 14 inches total. I may go with a 7.5 barrel if I feel it's too long with the suppressor.
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My barrel is 10.5 in length, and the suppressor makes it about 14 inches total. I may go with a 7.5 barrel if I feel it's too long with the suppressor.
Stick with the 10.5 - the super short 7.5 barrels are a PITA to get the gas system dialed in. If you do go 7.5, drop the extra cash for an adjustable gas block.

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I'm working on SBR next as well. It's going to be a long process, but I should have it by the end of the year if all goes well.

...or possibly be in court. We'll see which direction it goes.
You can always put a SBR in my NFA trust, and I'll keep the rifle for you.
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When he isnt looking you'll make it into a .22 or 9mm!

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Looks like one of these is gonna be mine! 😛 Nice meeting you yesterday Rick. Can't wait to get to work on this thing!

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Waiting period is so dumb. Illinois BS at its finest.

Rick, I'll take you up on a tour. I'll be in town the weekend of the 9th of march. Give me a quick run down on your stuff, so I can be sure I'm building what I want.
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