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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 03-01-2013, 08:19 AM Thread Starter
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I'm in the process of building my first AR15. The www.firespeedtactical.com guys are hooking me up and helping me out on the build. But, I'm really stuck on optics. Maybe some of you guys have an opinion on what to go with?

Here's my thoughts so far:
- The guns purpose is really CQC. Home defense and fun shooter, maybe I'll go back to shooting some 3 gun comps with it here and there
- REALLY like the ACOG with top mount red dot, but I don't really need any magnification on this build for it's purposes. But maybe would like to add some magnification later if possible. I'm also not sure I want to shell out $1200 all at once for this, but still not an impossibility if that's what it takes.
- I don't like the Eotech's. The more I read about the battery life, the more I dislike them. I'm the kind of person that leaves stuff in the locker and puts things on hold for long periods of time and likes things to work when I come back them.
- Nightvision isn't necessary but again I may like the possibility of adding it later. I think for home defense purpose I'll add some sort of light/laser configuration besides the optic.

This is what I'm leaning toward: Aimpoint red dot with flip up iron sights.
- This option seems to have good battery life, rugged quality, and functionality I'm looking for. But I don't know if I can add magnification or nightvision to this later.

Is there an optic out there that fits the bill for everything I'm looking for or am I searching for something that doesn't exist?

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I'd reconsider the eotechs. I think their battery life is great and it fits everything else you want.

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*scratches head*

I know you just kicked out Eotechs, but for what it's worth, mine's been rock solid for... shit, 10 years now? I've replaced the batteries once?
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EOtechs are not "ruled out". I recognize it's possible I found some online haters and got some poor reviews that stick out in my head. I would obviously trust what I hear from some of you more than random internet posters.

I don't remember, do Eotechs have a crosshair that works even when the battery goes dead? That was one concern of mine, although maybe I could just use iron sights in that case as well...

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I've spoken to guys who were deployed who said they turned their Aimpoint on when deployed, and didn't shut it off till they came home! That's some impressive battery life!

That said, I'm more of a fan of the holographic window of EOTech than the tube of an Aimpoint. It just works for me. Smart Drug pointed out that you should get the AA EOTech, in case the world ends, AA are much easier to find. That said, I went with rechargable CR123 since all my flashlights take them, they are small and light, and I can charge off my fold up solar panel that's in my bug out bag.

Battery life hasn't been an issue for me, but then, I'm also not on Active Duty where my life depends on the EOTech.

IMHO, let your eyes decide which works best for you - not battery life.

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Ponch, which model of C-More? I've heard they've had issues the past few years.

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Eotech, for sure! I have eXPS and 512 - work great and they have auto shut off after 6 hours, so not an issue if you forgot to turn it off. early models had issues with battery door leaking - but not the XPS line
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I had my eotech xps2 for 2 years and didn't ever change the batteries.

They do not have crosshairs if the battery dies. It's just plain glass. I put a set of magpul pop up iron sights on mine os if the eotech ever died, just flip them up and you are good to go.

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Oh yeah, I forgot that part. BUIS

High End, go Diamondhead BUIS

Inexpensive, but perfectly functional Magpul MBUS


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Aimpoint - T-1
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Magpul or Diamondhead BUIS as LR said

Later...
PVS-14
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I took Ponch's advice couple years ago and got a C-More. Never had any issues with it. I've used an Aimpoint back in my Army days and hated it. I ditched it for the Acog as soon as I could.
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Because everyone needs $3000 night optics on their rifle!

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I just read up a bunch on the C-More. Not interested.

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How c-more performs in rain/mist? Took a carbine class last year and it was drizzling all day. One of the guys was running Burris variant of the open reflex sights and it was fuzzy stain on the screen instead of the reticle.
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How c-more performs in rain/mist? Took a carbine class last year and it was drizzling all day. One of the guys was running Burris variant of the open reflex sights and it was fuzzy stain on the screen instead of the reticle.
I've used my rifle in all types of weather without any issues.
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I'd go for Aimpoint T1 for home defense. Its tiny dot for longer range up to 300m for ranges. Too light and small. You can use night vision for those who can afford or need it. What else did I mention? oh the battery life..
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Because everyone needs $3000 night optics on their rifle!
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- Nightvision isn't necessary but again I may like the possibility of adding it later.
Just addressing the OPs request and option for all they are considering...
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In case you want to go all out, get an Elcan Specter. If I had the money, that's what I'd get.
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In case you want to go all out, get an Elcan Specter. If I had the money, that's what I'd get.
I have a hard on on Elcan Specter 5.56! too rich for my wallet another one I would look at would be an Israeli Meprolight
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Brian I love lo-tech, iron sights for me I also can mount a 4x20 Red Star (think cheap) and hit things out to 400 meters with no problem. But then again I don't "build" rifles, I assembly them from parts AR rifles are like Lego sets. Like all things in life, its 80% person 20% machine. I prefer saving my $$$$ for shooting components

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