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80% complete AR-15 lowers are $65?

I don't know if this is a scam or what, but this place has lowers starting at $65 (donation).

http://www.rockethub.com/22106#description-tab

No FFL needed because they are not complete, so I'm guessing it would be a homemade firearm (you could not sell it without proper licensing). The picture in the link shows a different lower (I think), so I don't know what the deal is.

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Novelty, not worth it unless you are that concerned to make a lower that is completely off the record.

pain in the ass if you are not equipped to complete it.
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I don't want one, I was wondering what the deal with it was.
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Yeah, 80% lowers are to have an "undocumented rifle".

You need a jig, some high speed drill bits, end mill, and a good drill press, or better yet a mini-mill.

Literally the weekend before the December shooting, I was shopping for an 80% and jig kit. I was complaining because I could find the jigs at one shop, the 80% lowers at another shop, but not both at once. Within 48 hours after the shooting, pretty much every shop sold out of everything 80% related.

I would totally build one today if I could get all the parts at a reasonable price.

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I'm sure you would want to do it yourself, but there are plenty of people here that have the tools and skills to make it happen.
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I'm sure you would want to do it yourself, but there are plenty of people here that have the tools and skills to make it happen.
but then it's legally the machinist's lower, not yours.
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^^^

Well played.

I'll stick with the AR I have now and the Seekins lower I have ordered. I will probably get my tax stamp for the SBR before I get the lower. Fuck Brownells!
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Well it looks like the "nice" jigs are selling for $500 for the set. No point in buying a nice billet lower, then butcher it by drilling holes in the wrong place. Im sure with a mill table you could get away without jigs.....but how many people have mills at home. Hell, If I had a mill, I would just take my time and just old school a lower out of billet.
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but then it's legally the machinist's lower, not yours.
Exactly. *You* need to finish the lower for it to be yours (legally speaking). You also can't drop it off somewhere for anodizing, powder coating, engraving etc unless they are an 07FLL or they let you wait on premises while they work.

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Well it looks like the "nice" jigs are selling for $500 for the set. No point in buying a nice billet lower, then butcher it by drilling holes in the wrong place. Im sure with a mill table you could get away without jigs.....but how many people have mills at home. Hell, If I had a mill, I would just take my time and just old school a lower out of billet.
Way, way too much. I was looking at $150 at the high end. I'll wait till they come down a bit...and hope they don't somehow push a ban through here in Illinois.

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