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Which shot do you prefer when harvesting with a rile, behind the shoulder or threw it?



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Personally i take the given shot as appropriate to the angle of the deer. Usually aiming for the heart and basically if the shot allows i take it behind the shoulder to keep the bone from splintering / shattering on impact from the round.

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ok but if your well withien range i heard a shoulder shot is better, DEAD stops them right there and ofcourse it will blast the internals producing a fast take down, and of course wont have to track it far at all.

thats what i am seeing on the hunting channel, kinda makes sense to me.
where are bow hunting, its behind the shoulder, heart/lungs/frontal cavity.



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ok but if your well withien range i heard a shoulder shot is better, DEAD stops them right there and ofcourse it will blast the internals producing a fast take down, and of course wont have to track it far at all.

thats what i am seeing on the hunting channel, kinda makes sense to me.
where are bow hunting, its behind the shoulder, heart/lungs/frontal cavity.
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Just next to the shoulder. That is a lung shot. When you hit the heart the deer can actually run further. It runs till the blood runs out. When you hit the lungs they fill with blood. Thus deer cannot run very far at all.

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Here Ken. clicky

right where the line points to the lungs is where you want to aim IMO.

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my bad to it looked like a shoulder shot, they were taking although the shoulder blade is alot higher.

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my bad to it looked like a shoulder shot, they were taking although the shoulder blade is alot higher.

thanks brian.

When you actually look at the deer I think the structure can get distorted due to the muscle structure. Those things are so lean it looks like the shoulder blade extends over the heart and lungs. In reality its just muscle and not bone structure.

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Even with a lung shot, the deer can run for a distance. I put a 12 ga slug through one(in one side and out the other), a perfect lung shot, and the thing ran about 200 yards before dropping. That is a long way in the trees and brush. It was still alive when I got there. I slit the throat and the blood still pumped for a bit. Hardy creatures, they are.

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Even with a lung shot, the deer can run for a distance. I put a 12 ga slug through one(in one side and out the other), a perfect lung shot, and the thing ran about 200 yards before dropping. That is a long way in the trees and brush. It was still alive

Not that I don't believe you. I've never heard of a deer going that far on a lung shot. Did the thing have kevlar on???

Seriously though I've heard of them going further than 200 on a heart shot.

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Believe what you want. I have the pelt to show for it (entrance and exit holes apparent) and I gutted it so I know where the slug went. Sometimes things don't die like you think. Same goes for birds. I've shot them point blank in the head and still had to wring their stupid necks.

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hit em' right behind the shoulder.. youll ruin a lot less meat. Theres no reason to hit the shoulder blade. Youll find your deer regardless. It may be running but its dead on its feet

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Exactly Mike. Right behind the shoulder is where i usually aim and drop em.

I have had a deer in my sights when bowhunting continue to graze and as i released the line the arrow went through and through his lungs. Get this. He picked his head up, looked around, and then went back to grazing!!! it was about 18-20 yards max and i could not believe i missed!!! i reached over for another arrow and as i nocked it the damn deer started rearing his head and launched for about 10 feet and keeled.

That was amazing to me. This arrow must of went through so fast and clean he did'nt feel it untill he could'nt take a breath. Still makes me shake my head when i think about it.

I have had a few deer really take off and have to track for quite the distance.

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Same thing happened to me Kelly with the first deer I shot with my bow back in '88. I shot, it grazed the underside of her neck, cut an artery, she stood there for about 30 seconds before she fell over dead, her feet never moved.. Never knew she'd been hit. Now thats a sharp broadhead

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is there a site for points on deer where the common and top pointers for differant areas are, it looks to me on general a 8-10 pointer is a bunus buck...and i even seen a 12 pointer on this one show getting tooken down.

plus whats better to eat, buck or doe?



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Ken , not sure what you mean about points? Boone and Crocket or Pope and Young should have the official way to score a deer if thats what you mean.

In my experience the only thing that makes much of a difference in taste is age. The younger the better.

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Taste is just a matter of preference. Not much difference between buck and doe, but I tend to disagree with Mike. The older the better. I may be wrong but I believe the younger deer don't have as much meat and along with that don't have as much fat. To me a little fat gives it a good taste.

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Ive always been told that butchers add beef or pork fat to ground venison because deer fat has a wild gamey taste. Im no butcher though and quit butchering my own deer years ago

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Ive always been told that butchers add beef or pork fat to ground venison because deer fat has a wild gamey taste. Im no butcher though and quit butchering my own deer years ago
We've always done our own. I was talking more about the regular meat not the ground. I tend to ad a little pork sausage to my ground meat for some extra fatty taste.

Ken, those burgers you ate at my place that was a medium age deer with a bit of pork sausage mixed in.

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All this hunting talk done gave me a hard-on again!
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yeah i remember that brian, they were good and a bit gamey.

but i was talking about, example:
IL typical bucks are around 6 pointers
MI around 8
south DA around 10

other wise, holding out for a better trophy cause these parts where your hunting qill provide better trophy then what say your use to in IL a crappy 6 again this is all an example i am using.



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oh shit Kelly ! ! ! !

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Ken actually IL is one of the hottest destination points in the country these days for huge bodied and big racked bucks. More so in the west central part of the state but also the NW part of IL too. Some of the biggest bucks each year come from IL, It is very very difficult to gain access to private land because its become such big business recently. Outfitters are signing leases with farmers locking out average Joes like you and me

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well hey someone has to make a buck..GET IT? BUCK...LMAO!



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