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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-20-2003, 10:50 AM Thread Starter
 
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Do you keep a gun in your car?

During a motorcycle class that I was teaching this past year, we were talking about operating a motorcycle under stressful conditions and confontations with other drivers. While the point is to avoid it (car vs bike = win for car usually), one of the instructors mentioned a stat that 30 or 40% of drivers keep some sort of gun in the car or other weapon. Anyone here roll the streets with a gun (legally stored) in the car?

I usually have one mostly because I compete in shooting competitions and it saves me a trip home after work. Not that I ever thought or plan to use it on anyone other than paper unless I really have to. Even then it would be the last of resorts.

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In order for a gun to be considered "legally stored", wouldn't it need to be unloaded and NOT in the passenger compartment?

Personally, I think it is stupid to keep a gun in a car. A car is not a secure environment (like a residence). What happens when your car is broken into, or stolen?

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Here's what I came up with once when I sat down and looked over the laws with a Deerfield police officer...


Basically it says that...It's illegal to carry guns on you or in your car "EXCEPT that this subsection (a) (4) does not apply to or affect transportation of weapons that meet ONE of the following
conditions:

(i) are broken down in a non-functioning state; or

(ii) are not immediately accessible; or

(iii) are unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container by a person who has been issued a currently valid Firearm Owner’s Identification Card..."


To legally carry a gun on you or in the car with you, you need to meet one of the above conditions. The third one allows you to have it in the case next to you on the seat, or you can even sit on it if you like. You can have the magazine loaded with bullets, but it must be outside the case that holds the gun. The quote above is from the Illinois Gun Law page. From the page I also got that you can basically walk around your front lawn holstered if you want. Might be an interesting way to cut the grass eh? Now the officer said "Yea everything you say is legal, but you might be arrested anyway and have to go through the courts to get it tossed out which may not be worth it. I don't give people a hard time, but there are officers that really don't know the law for carrying guns all that well..."

http://www.isp.state.il.us/docs/ptfire.pdf
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Remember, thanks to Mayor Daley,


If you are transporting throught the city of Chicago any handgun must be disassembled


I carry a mag light. It's too risky and irresponsible to carry a gun in your car.

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Remember, thanks to Mayor Daley,


If you are transporting throught the city of Chicago any handgun must be disassembled


I carry a mag light. It's too risky and irresponsible to carry a gun in your car.
If you're passing through the city and are not a resident, then the law does not apply to you. This is only for people who plan to remain in Chicago for extended periods of time.
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Well thank god only non law binding citizens and tourists can pack heat in my city.

...damn tourists. They are always the bad drivers too. I should be more careful when i scream at them.

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Well thank god only non law binding citizens and tourists can pack heat in my city.

...damn tourists. They are always the bad drivers too. I should be more careful when i scream at them.

Well,

I'm not sure thats the case cause CPD told me different, so I'm not sure where Biggy got that.

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I'm not sure thats the case cause CPD told me different, so I'm not sure where Biggy got that.
What CPD says and what the law says may not always be the same. Like when I spoke to the Deerfield officer and he never thought that the gun could be laying next to you in a case. I simply dug up the law and wanted to make sure about the wording and everything...that's when I spoke with the PD. There's a lot of laws, they don't know some of them I'm sure.
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I've considered carrying an asp on the cycle or in the cage. I don't think I would carry a gun due to the fact that I can get pretty angry at other drivers I'll leave it up to Darwinism to handle those folks.


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I KEEP A UNREGISTERD GUN UNDERNEATH MY SEAT AT ALL TIMES..... GOTTA HANDLE MY BUSSINES
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They arent talkin cap guns! You know that you wouldnt be able to handle anything more than a Red Rider BB gun.
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I'm never honking at or passing any driver in chicago ever again
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Personally, I think it is stupid to keep a gun in a car. A car is not a secure environment (like a residence). What happens when your car is broken into, or stolen?
Tell me about it.

I had a couple of handguns in my car. Planned on going shooting, but it never happened. I forgot to take them out. I'm at the air show, parked at Lincoln Park Zoo and someone broke into my car and stole them out of my trunk. They busted the passenger side window and got in. They went through my trunk, and stole the guns. The guns were hidden way in back behind a bunch of crap and were in a heavy locked box. Neither was loaded.

They took my Dan Wesson 357 Magnum Stainless Steel Revolver w/6" barrel and my 9MM Baretta 92 FS Semi w/16 round clip

It's weird, they didn't take my golf clubs which were right there, they dug in there and foung the guns. I made the Chicago Police aware of theis.

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