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Taurus PT1911 Stainless Steel .45ACP 3 27.27%
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Kimber TLE .45ACP 3 27.27%
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First 1911 Recommendations

I'm going to pick up a 1911 one of these days and I've been tossing around a few firearms that interest me, I want to know your opinion on each of them and help me choose.

I'm leaning towards the Dan Wesson due to the 10mm being a great round but the Taurus seems nicely put together from the factory so that is nice too.

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EDIT: I meant Dan Wesson Razorback, not Les Baer.

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It really depends on your price range, but you can't go wrong with Springfield Armory. They have something for everyone and in a wide variety of prices.

Their custom shop is absolutely incredible, I had work done this time last year to my Loaded Model and they actually gave me several options to achieve what I wanted, yet saving me a couple of hundred in the process.

The other thing I love about Springfield is that they really stand behind their product, and back it up with a lifetime no BS warranty.

By the way did I mention Sprinfield Armory FTW?!?!?!
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Bit of a highjack here...but what is the Kimber equivalent of the SA TRP Operator?

The Custom Line seems the closest with the steel frame, but most of the Kimber line seems to utilize an aluminum frame. Im really liking the Tactical line.

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I voted other as like the Springfields as well. Though my first 1911 was the Dan Wesson Bobtail in 45 acp. The Wesson is a nice gun just be ready to put quite a few rounds through it to break it in before it will perform perfect. They are tight and a little temperamental from the factory. Make sure you check out www.1911forum.com

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I almost bought a 1911 last week, but ended up with a HK45. It just fit my hand and I did an "I gotta get me one of these" at first grip. I was going to go with one of the Springfield TRPs or a Loaded to try to save some $ as I've had the Jones for a 1911 for since I sold my old Colt years back. I will pick up a 1911 at some point. Maybe a compact in 08. If/when I do it I'm almost 100% certain it will be a Springfield. As Tony said, the TRP Operator (If you want a rail) is one heck of a weapon. Just ask Ken.

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Stay away from 10mm unless you have deep pockets. Not only that, ammo availabilty is not plentiful.

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I should have mentioned price, I'd like to stay somewhere in the $600-800 range. The Stainless Taurus is $620 out the door, I've found a few of the Dan Wessons for $700-850 on AR15.com. Can I realistically be in this price range with SA? Ideally, that's where I'd like to be, but every SA I've priced out has been $1600+.

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Not a TRP. A SA Loaded is at the top of the range. The biggest difference I see is the Loaded doesn't have a match trigger or barrel and has different grips. I was looking at TRPs starting at $1,350 and going to $2,200.

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When I bought my Glock in '95, I thought about getting the 10mm, and glad I got the 40 cal. I reload my own stuff, so price was not a big deal, but avaliability is. And the 40 cal has plenty of knockdown power. True story.

I have thought about getting a more "refined" pistol in 45 cal, so I am very curious to see what Brian purchases.
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what is the Kimber equivalent of the SA TRP Operator?

The Custom Line seems the closest with the steel frame, but most of the Kimber line seems to utilize an aluminum frame. Im really liking the Tactical line.
H....any comment here?
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Ponch which models do you prefer in the Kimber lineup? I didn't really care for the 2 that I owned. I had a Ultra Carry II in Stainless, and I had a Pro CDP II.

Both were excellent in fit and finish, but I had feeding issues - which Kimber and others said was due to using Kimber mags. I tried others and some worked some didn't.

Now my Springfield will use any mag including the el cheapo Chineese stainless mags. Mine started as a loaded model - Parkerized with nightsights, and now is close to the TRP Pro Model. I originally bought it for $500.00 in 2001 and put another $450.00 into it.

The Loaded model is rock solid, but I wanted more refinement. The loaded version comes with alot of great extras included in the base price, and if you want more you can always buy a higher end model or make changes to the loaded as you progress.

Either way the 1911 is still my favorite, and I plan to add more to the collection, and they probably won't all be SA.

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there was a SWAT version of the TRP in the kimber line up, but i think i remember it was no no where close to the TRP operator.



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I think this is as close as you will get without ordering one to your specs: Custom TLE/RL II

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p.s. but no one comes close to the service quality and customer service of Springfield Armory.



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But the Kimbers two-tone grey and black are so
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p.s. but no one comes close to the service quality and customer service of Springfield Armory.
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I'm very fond of the Eclipse line up.

For the question asked about what Kimber has along the same lines as the TRP, nothing. I don't believe any Mfg. makes a 5" 1911 with a full length picatiny dust cover such as teh TRP.

With that said I've always been one to weight out the NEEDS of the shooter Vs. the WANTS.

With all due respect, if anyone is up in arms about being in a certain price range then the pic rail under the gun serves NO purpose becuase the odds are you are not going to spent the $100, $200, $300 or even $400 dollars for either a light or a LAM ( Laser Aiming Module).

So to me everyone should start off with a clean slate and "BUILD" their gun from there.

Aluminum Vs. Steel.

It all boils down to carry weight, Aluminum will be lighter but the trade off is recoil. Now, it's not that big of a diffrence. People general make a bigger deal about the percieved recoil in Aluminum vs. Steel. Think about what the poly guns must be dishing out if we are going to gripe about oz.

In the Kimber line they had the TLE and TLE variants that came close to the TRP. As a side note, I do NOT hold teh TRP to any standard when judging 1911's. The TRP always gets the nod here cause Ken has one that shoots well and has had GREAT C/S from Springfield. That's great, but one happy customer does not make Springfield the greastest co in teh world. I know for a fact that Ken had a fucked up time with RUGER and caught hell for it when he posted on another forum about it. If anything the key is to get a gun that will never need C/S.

If your never going to carry it, nothing is going to beat a 5" 1911 in good old .45acp.

You can rack up a huge price tag with front and rear strap checkering, ambi safeties, night sights, "custom shop" trigger jobs, exotic finishes and goofey extras such as pic rails or mag wells.
All these things are great BUT have their place. In a sub QUALITY gun your not going to find them.

At this time TAURUS does make a good gun with some of these features in a very good price point. But compare the taurus to a Springfield Loaded or a Kimber Classic and you'll see the diffrence imediatly.
Para Ordance, RRA, Caspian, STI and Sig all make great 1911's yet no one has mentiones them. Even S&W has entered teh 1911 market.

My advice right now would be to check out a SIG GSR, you won't be disapointed and it should fall in your price range

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What? You don't have one to part with? I'm stunned...
I only have one Kimber, and that's my TEAM MATCH. Other trhan that all my 1911's, with the exception of all teh Colts, are full blown race guns.

Believe it or not, I'm not a huge fan of 1911. The are great, in .45 they are balls on accurate but I have others that interest me more.

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So H...what target/home defense 45 would interest you in the sub $1500 range?
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Find a nice, used "series 1" Kimber (before all of the safety and ext extractor bs) and don't look back. These are really nice 1911's and an excellent platform if you choose to do any modifications.

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