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Reminds me of the 105mm flechette "beehive" rounds used back in Vietnam.
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Abrams FTMFW!!!! That's awesome, and would save on 7.62 ammo.

Beknatok, the M1 slick and IPM1 also made use of the beehive round.

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holy crap!! that took out a huge area of targets..also pretty friggen cool to see the cone of air behind it on the slo-mo. Is that the shell/casing that stays intact the whole time, or some sort of sweet grenade thrown in with it

suck to be on the receiving end of that! lol

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Duck and cover. I wonder what the effective range is on that? Do you think it will make it 750-1,000 yards?

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holy crap!! that took out a huge area of targets..also pretty friggen cool to see the cone of air behind it on the slo-mo. Is that the shell/casing that stays intact the whole time, or some sort of sweet grenade thrown in with it
Good question. It almost looks like the round's endcap, but I doubt it. The casing flies off as soon as the round leaves the barrel. You can see it split into 4 sections in the first shots. Its just like a sabot round; so that's not the casing.

From the last images I think that blob is just a large collection of the pellets from the center of the round. It looks like it breaks apart at a certain distance.

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Duck and cover. I wonder what the effective range is on that? Do you think it will make it 750-1,000 yards?
I would say that's a pretty fair estimate.

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Good question. It almost looks like the round's endcap, but I doubt it. The casing flies off as soon as the round leaves the barrel. You can see it split into 4 sections in the first shots. Its just like a sabot round; so that's not the casing.

From the last images I think that blob is just a large collection of the pellets from the center of the round. It looks like it breaks apart at a certain distance.



I would say that's a pretty fair estimate.
I would say thats the equivalent of the wadding from a normal shell. I would think the range would be much closer, that shits gonna fall off by the time it hit 750 yards.




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I would say thats the equivalent of the wadding from a normal shell. I would think the range would be much closer, that shits gonna fall off by the time it hit 750 yards.

Ahhh, wadding. Yeah that's probably what it is.

Less than 750? That last video section was the best indicator. How far do you think the tank was from the targets?

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I would say thats the equivalent of the wadding from a normal shell. I would think the range would be much closer, that shits gonna fall off by the time it hit 750 yards.
I was originally thinking 300 to 500 yards, but who knows how big the shot is? It is hard to tell from the picture. If it is 1/2" shot with a crapload of powder and velocity it could have mongo carry. 500 to 750 for a overgrown shotgun is still pretty impressive. The down range picture certainly looked long. Oh, +1 on wadding.

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holee crap...
taking crowd control to a whole new level...
that oughta teach them rock-chuckers.. lol

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Abrams FTMFW!!!! That's awesome, and would save on 7.62 ammo.

Beknatok, the M1 slick and IPM1 also made use of the beehive round.

cause 7.62 is so expensive and in short supply
ill bet per kill the tank shotty round costs more

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cause 7.62 is so expensive and in short supply
ill bet per kill the tank shotty round costs more

damn cool though
Per kill it would cost more to shoot the M240 compared to the M24
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cause 7.62 is so expensive and in short supply
ill bet per kill the tank shotty round costs more

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Per kill it would cost more to shoot the M240 compared to the M24
Hey guys, I was being facitious.

I was an Abrams crewman back in the day. I wonder why we (being Abrams crews) would want to use a shotgun shell from the main gun instead of the co-ax 240 or the loader's 240.

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Hey guys, I was being facitious.

I was an Abrams crewman back in the day. I wonder why we (being Abrams crews) would want to use a shotgun shell from the main gun instead of the co-ax 240 or the loader's 240.
Come on man, in the Army you do things because they look and sound cool. It would give you another reason to fire the main gun. Kind of like doing room clearing in Iraq with an AT-4. Doesn't make sense, but looks cool.
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Come on man, in the Army you do things because they look and sound cool. It would give you another reason to fire the main gun. Kind of like doing room clearing in Iraq with an AT-4. Doesn't make sense, but looks cool.
Excellent point. I bet the crews in Iraq don't fire the main gun much. Why fire a sabot at a bunch of guerillas? I do hear that HEAT rounds make a mess out of a bunker, though.

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Excellent point. I bet the crews in Iraq don't fire the main gun much. Why fire a sabot at a bunch of guerillas? I do hear that HEAT rounds make a mess out of a bunker, though.
I've talked to some tankers out there and they said they carried mostly HEET rounds. They rarely used them, but they did say they've used AT-4's for room clearing. I always wanted to get my hands on one of those over there.
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