Springfield XD45 or XdM 40? - Chicagoland Sportbikes
Chicagoland Sportbikes
 
Weapons & Hunters Corner For all your firearms, safety, weapon choice, hunting topic questions.

 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 09-06-2008, 08:33 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
ClevisR6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: West
Posts: 1,009
Location: West
Sportbike: 04 Zuma, 06 Crf50
Years Riding: sho' nuff!
How you found us: Nesba
           
Springfield XD45 or XdM 40?

I cannot decide:

XD45 service (4") or tactical (5"), both hold 13+1 rounds of 45acp in normal sized frame (about $460 + shipping + FFL transfer fee)

OR

XdM which is a 4.5" 16+1 .40 S&W with some upgrades over the standard XDs (about $575 + shipping + FFL transfer fee)

BTW, shipping and transfer fees work out to be less than tax even with these reduced prices, nevermind retail.


http://www.springfield-armory.com/xd.php

Last edited by ClevisR6; 09-08-2008 at 10:55 PM. Reason: prices edited
ClevisR6 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old 09-06-2008, 08:41 PM
Space Monkey
 
Project Mayhem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Arlington Heights, IL
Posts: 523
Location: Arlington Heights, IL
Sportbike: 1998 GSX-R750 SRAD
Years Riding: Five
How you found us: from Bek (Andy)
           
I got the XD .45 Service a few months ago and LOVE IT. I would be interested in getting to shoot the XDm, so if you get it, let me know.

When the pepper spray runs out, can I have your number?
Project Mayhem is offline  
post #3 of 18 (permalink) Old 09-07-2008, 09:02 AM
Inu
Computer Junkie
 
Inu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 1,118
Location: Chicago, IL
Sportbike: 02 Katana 600
Years Riding: 3
How you found us: http://www.katanaplanet.com
           
Send a message via AIM to Inu Send a message via Yahoo to Inu
Quote:
Originally Posted by Project Mayhem View Post
I got the XD .45 Service a few months ago and LOVE IT. I would be interested in getting to shoot the XDm, so if you get it, let me know.
Wow looks like a nice piece (the XDm)... Anyone have any personal reviews on it? I like how it comes with holster and mag pouch. I'm trying to resist buying one from gunbroker!
Inu is offline  
post #4 of 18 (permalink) Old 09-07-2008, 10:40 AM
Failed rehab
 
Rob, Esq.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Indy
Posts: 14,908
Location: Indy
Sportbike: Striple
Years Riding: Dunno, awhile?
How you found us: DML
           
Send a message via AIM to Rob, Esq. Send a message via MSN to Rob, Esq.
That XDm does look pretty slick.

I'd take the .40. Nice features plus cheaper ammo means more range time. Any pistol is only as good as the shooter.

Attorney-at-Law: Doing my part to contribute to the downfall of western society.
Rob, Esq. is offline  
post #5 of 18 (permalink) Old 09-07-2008, 12:27 PM
Si Vis Pacem Parabellum
 
SmartDrug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Bartlett
Posts: 11,410
Location: Bartlett
Sportbike: 955i Speed Triple, 100AE Road King, AP1 Honda S2000
Years Riding: 1/3rd of my life.
How you found us: Cave Johnson
           
I hate the .40 Short and Weak round but that XDm is pretty badass, that'd be my choice of the lot.

Brian
NESBA #22
الكافرة مع بندقية سوداء
Si vis pacem parabellum

Quote:
Yeah, I quit doing blow, not being rad!
SmartDrug is offline  
post #6 of 18 (permalink) Old 09-07-2008, 01:08 PM
Bek
Your Cigar Aficionado
 
Bek's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Bolingbrook, IL
Posts: 7,144
Location: Bolingbrook, IL
Sportbike: 2007 Yamaha FZ6 & 2000 Kawasaki Vulcan 800 Classic
Years Riding: Long enough to know not long enough...
How you found us: Google-fu
           
Send a message via Yahoo to Bek
I'd wait... skip the XDm in .40. The XDm will come out in 9mm and .45 within a year. That's my personal plan.
Bek is offline  
post #7 of 18 (permalink) Old 09-07-2008, 01:46 PM
The Halo hides my Horns
 
Lonely Raven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Bolingbrook, IL
Posts: 12,690
Location: Bolingbrook, IL
Sportbike: SV650
Years Riding: 1 year
How you found us: Google
           
What's the difference between the XDm and the regular XD? What am I missing?

It's starting to bug me that the Springfield page says *they* made the XD, which I'm pretty sure is untrue.

The original XD9 was actually the Croatian Military/Police pistol, originally imported into the US as the HS2000. When the original importer went belly-up, Springfield recognized the pistol for what it was and bought the rights to manufacture it here in the US.

From there they rolled out the other variations of it (e.g. .40, 357 SIG, 45ACP etc). In fact, it took them friggen forever to get the first two models out. I think I bought my HS2000 back around 1998 or 1999, then bought my XD 40 tactial 5-6 years later.

Fantastic pistols, great bang for the buck, and more accurate than I am that's for sure.

aut cum scuto aut in scuto

http://www.firespeedtactical.com

My ZenFolio Gallery: www.LonelyRaven.ZenFolio.com
Lonely Raven is offline  
post #8 of 18 (permalink) Old 09-07-2008, 10:59 PM
Only TWO cams now...
 
4Cammer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Aurora, Il
Posts: 2,079
Location: Aurora, Il
Sportbike: 1978 Suzuki GS750C
Years Riding: Long time
How you found us: Google.com
           
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lonely Raven View Post
It's starting to bug me that the Springfield page says *they* made the XD, which I'm pretty sure is untrue.

The original XD9 was actually the Croatian Military/Police pistol, originally imported into the US as the HS2000. When the original importer went belly-up.... and bought the rights to manufacture it here in the US.
Great platform, but still not made here. Unless Croatia became a part of the US.

*
*
*
*

"Fear only two: G-d, and him who fears not G-d."
-Judah Leib Lazerov

"Tov lamut be'ad artzaynu." (It is good to die for our country)
-Joseph Trumpeldor
4Cammer is offline  
post #9 of 18 (permalink) Old 09-07-2008, 11:06 PM
Only TWO cams now...
 
4Cammer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Aurora, Il
Posts: 2,079
Location: Aurora, Il
Sportbike: 1978 Suzuki GS750C
Years Riding: Long time
How you found us: Google.com
           
Quote:
Originally Posted by ClevisR6 View Post
I cannot decide:
XD45 service (4") or tactical (5"), both hold 13+1 rounds of 45acp in normal sized frame (about $460)
OR
XdM which is a 4.5" 16+1 .40 S&W with some upgrades over the standard XDs
http://www.springfield-armory.com/xd.php
Take a run over to MegaSports in Plainfield and rent each one to see what you like. While there I'd also take a look at the Smith and Wesson M&P tupperware pistol. You just might like it better. If this is just to be a target gun I'd take a good look at a 9mm.

Check out this site when you have time. Excellent info on production/stock gun shooting:

http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?act=idx

*
*
*
*

"Fear only two: G-d, and him who fears not G-d."
-Judah Leib Lazerov

"Tov lamut be'ad artzaynu." (It is good to die for our country)
-Joseph Trumpeldor
4Cammer is offline  
post #10 of 18 (permalink) Old 09-07-2008, 11:31 PM
Space Monkey
 
Project Mayhem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Arlington Heights, IL
Posts: 523
Location: Arlington Heights, IL
Sportbike: 1998 GSX-R750 SRAD
Years Riding: Five
How you found us: from Bek (Andy)
           
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Cammer View Post
Take a run over to MegaSports in Plainfield and rent each one to see what you like. While there I'd also take a look at the Smith and Wesson M&P tupperware pistol. You just might like it better. If this is just to be a target gun I'd take a good look at a 9mm.

Check out this site when you have time. Excellent info on production/stock gun shooting:

http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?act=idx
MegaSports in Plainfield FTW- those guys are really friendly, and they've got an awesome selection of new and used stuff. I got my Taurus PT92 from there for $30 cheaper than the normal price.

When the pepper spray runs out, can I have your number?
Project Mayhem is offline  
post #11 of 18 (permalink) Old 09-08-2008, 10:52 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
ClevisR6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: West
Posts: 1,009
Location: West
Sportbike: 04 Zuma, 06 Crf50
Years Riding: sho' nuff!
How you found us: Nesba
           
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bek View Post
I'd wait... skip the XDm in .40. The XDm will come out in 9mm and .45 within a year. That's my personal plan.
You going to get one of each?

It will be interesting to see the capacity of the 9mm..... maybe 18+1??? I may get a pair of those if that is the case.

I don't think the .45 will gain capacity though, the XD 45 is 13+1 which is already more than the XD 40 is. I think it may be maxed out. The improved trigger, grips, and sight may be worth it though, even if it is the same capacity.

Apparently the whole lineup has fully supported chambers... Would that mean you could use some crazy high powered rounds in the smaller calibers reliably and get nearly the effect of the 45, but with more capacity?
ClevisR6 is offline  
post #12 of 18 (permalink) Old 09-09-2008, 05:51 AM
Hot-Wire Her With A Pin
 
Paladin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: County Hell
Posts: 8,791
Location: County Hell
Sportbike: Blue Mini Cooper
Years Riding: Done for now
How you found us: Bad weather bikers
           
Send a message via Yahoo to Paladin
The XD-M has some quirks worked out like no dry fire to disassemble and a target barrel.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bug View Post
I will sock ya square in your snot locker if you EVER use the term "Bron Bron" in my presence - BAHLEEDAT
Paladin is offline  
post #13 of 18 (permalink) Old 09-09-2008, 06:57 AM
The Halo hides my Horns
 
Lonely Raven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Bolingbrook, IL
Posts: 12,690
Location: Bolingbrook, IL
Sportbike: SV650
Years Riding: 1 year
How you found us: Google
           
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Cammer View Post
Great platform, but still not made here. Unless Croatia became a part of the US.
Ahh, I thought Springfield completely took over production.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paladin View Post
The XD-M has some quirks worked out like no dry fire to disassemble and a target barrel.
That's worth it. I'm not going to get rid of my two, but I'd love to have another .357 SIG and a 45 ACP

aut cum scuto aut in scuto

http://www.firespeedtactical.com

My ZenFolio Gallery: www.LonelyRaven.ZenFolio.com
Lonely Raven is offline  
post #14 of 18 (permalink) Old 09-09-2008, 08:01 AM
Bek
Your Cigar Aficionado
 
Bek's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Bolingbrook, IL
Posts: 7,144
Location: Bolingbrook, IL
Sportbike: 2007 Yamaha FZ6 & 2000 Kawasaki Vulcan 800 Classic
Years Riding: Long enough to know not long enough...
How you found us: Google-fu
           
Send a message via Yahoo to Bek
Quote:
Originally Posted by ClevisR6 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bek View Post
I'd wait... skip the XDm in .40. The XDm will come out in 9mm and .45 within a year. That's my personal plan.
You going to get one of each?

It will be interesting to see the capacity of the 9mm..... maybe 18+1??? I may get a pair of those if that is the case.

I don't think the .45 will gain capacity though, the XD 45 is 13+1 which is already more than the XD 40 is. I think it may be maxed out. The improved trigger, grips, and sight may be worth it though, even if it is the same capacity.

Apparently the whole lineup has fully supported chambers... Would that mean you could use some crazy high powered rounds in the smaller calibers reliably and get nearly the effect of the 45, but with more capacity?
Hah, I wish I could afford one of each. No... my point was that I'll wait until both the 9mm and .45 version come out, evaluate them, then choose one or the other.

For logistics purposes, I limit the calibers that I purchase, and have settled on both 9mm and .45. I am a strong believer in that you should work with the largest caliber that you have adept proficiency, comfort, etc. and that happens to be .45 for me. However, I also have small paws, so unless it's a single stack 1911 (which I'm a huge fan of), most double stack .45's are just a hair too large for me. But I'm excited about the XDm with the adjustable grips, coupled with the ambidexterous mag release. The latter allows me to use my middle finger, like I do with my HK USP, instead of having to "twist" my grip to have my thumb reach.
Bek is offline  
post #15 of 18 (permalink) Old 09-09-2008, 09:12 AM
YO MAMA
 
Odysseys's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: balls deep in someones mom
Posts: 60,261
Location: balls deep in someones mom
Sportbike: 2010 Electra Glide Police Edition 103cu
Years Riding: a long time!
           
what range of expectations do you have for that pistol (what are you going to mainly do with it)?



Odysseys is offline  
post #16 of 18 (permalink) Old 09-13-2008, 09:34 AM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
ClevisR6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: West
Posts: 1,009
Location: West
Sportbike: 04 Zuma, 06 Crf50
Years Riding: sho' nuff!
How you found us: Nesba
           
Quote:
Originally Posted by Odysseys View Post
what range of expectations do you have for that pistol (what are you going to mainly do with it)?
home/ family protection. Want something high capacity, reliable, can fire dirty, etc.
ClevisR6 is offline  
post #17 of 18 (permalink) Old 09-14-2008, 04:32 PM
Go big or go home!!
 
JPKII's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Joliet, IL
Posts: 1,021
Location: Joliet, IL
Sportbike: 2012 Ducati Panigale S, 2014 Triumph Scrambler
Years Riding: 147 Years, 4 months, 22 days
How you found us: looking for free porn on the internet
         
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmartDrug View Post
I hate the .40 Short and Weak round but that XDm is pretty badass, that'd be my choice of the lot.
Ya, but the .40 S&W is a better round than the 9 (higher muzzle velocity, more energy with only about .2" drop at 50 ft more than a 9 mm) and still better than a .45 on all counts (more energy, more velocity, and less drop -.45 drops like a stone at 50 yards-).

Compare a Remington Express .40 180 grain, .45 230 grain, and the 9 mm 147 grain.

Even if you compare specialty rounds like Hornady TAP ammo you can find rounds that are still better in .40. Unless you start talkin +P+ where the .45 will have higher energy at further distances but nearly the same at the muzzle.

Of course, IMHO, a 10 mm is top dog on all counts.
Attached Files
File Type: pdf Hornady_Pistol_Ballistics.pdf (190.3 KB, 1 views)
JPKII is offline  
post #18 of 18 (permalink) Old 09-14-2008, 11:11 PM
Only TWO cams now...
 
4Cammer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Aurora, Il
Posts: 2,079
Location: Aurora, Il
Sportbike: 1978 Suzuki GS750C
Years Riding: Long time
How you found us: Google.com
           
Quote:
Originally Posted by ClevisR6 View Post
home/ family protection. Want something high capacity, reliable, can fire dirty, etc.


Get the pistol that you can shoot well. For the needs you have specified a weapon that you know how to operate, operate well and place first and follow up shots with is MUCH more important than than caliber selection. If you can't hit what you are pointing at your weapon is just an expensive club.

A quality high-cap 9mm is hard to beat. Fed hollowpoints it will get the job done, and most will hold 15 rnds. If that is not enough you are is deep shit.

I'd take a real good look at a CZ75 or CZ85 Combat. All steel, like G-d intended.

*
*
*
*

"Fear only two: G-d, and him who fears not G-d."
-Judah Leib Lazerov

"Tov lamut be'ad artzaynu." (It is good to die for our country)
-Joseph Trumpeldor
4Cammer is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Chicagoland Sportbikes forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome