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Finally picked up my first AR15. Well have to wait the 1 day hold so will get it later today or tomorrow.
Rock River LAR15 - flat top retractable stock short barrel
forget what model it is

Where are the best places to buy more clips and ammo now?

Also I want an optic.

I like the eotech one that Ken has on his AR. What else do you recommend?

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Nice choice...I have the Entry Tactical with the Daniel Defense handguard

cheaperthandirt.com is something to check out.

ar15.com is one of the better forums.

I picked up a few of the poly mags and an Eotech.
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What Eotech did you go with?

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clips are for Garands.

AR15s use magazines.

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clips are for Garands.

AR15s use magazines.

gotcha
thanks

AR15 lists wayyyyyyyy to many different kinds.

I want some more 30rds
What should I be looking for?

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Not sure on the exact Eotech model...something similar to this.
http://www.eotech-inc.com/product.php?id=25&cat=2
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Lots of postive reviews on these....what I bought
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Fulton Armory sells some nice stuff.

For ammo it all depends on twist rate. You really can't go heavier than 55gr if you have less than a 7:1 twist. POI: 9:1 is less than a 7:1

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Eventually I'd like to build up my Rock River Frame. I think I bought it 8 years ago, and it's just been sitting in a case ever since.

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Fulton Armory sells some nice stuff.

For ammo it all depends on twist rate. You really can't go heavier than 55gr if you have less than a 7:1 twist. POI: 9:1 is less than a 7:1
not quite. I've got a 9:1 RRA Entry Tactical, and it shoots 62gr M855 just fine.

But you're right, heavier ammo tends to not like longer twist rates. 62gr ammo won't stabilize out of a 12:1.

http://www.razoreye.net/mirror/ammo-...cle_Mirror.htm

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not quite. I've got a 9:1 RRA Entry Tactical, and it shoots 62gr M855 just fine.

But you're right, heavier ammo tends to not like longer twist rates. 62gr ammo won't stabilize out of a 12:1.

http://www.razoreye.net/mirror/ammo-...ror.htmhttp://
Link does not work Rob. That is just what I was told when the A2 was being phased in with he HB 7:1.

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Link does not work Rob. That is just what I was told when the A2 was being phased in with he HB 7:1.
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Thanks thought the A1 was a 1:9 not a 1:12.

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From my experience this is an awesome scope. Leupold Mark 4 1-3x14mm CQ/T Specifications:

True 1x setting - functions as your non-magnifying, illuminated sight for tactical scenarios or engaging targets at extremely close range.
2x or 3x settings - the additional power you need to accurately engage targets at medium ranges.
1/2-MOA click adjustments - for windage and elevation.
Leupold Circle Dot reticle -a bold aiming point for the operator, and also provides range estimation.
Ten reticle illumination settings - to match any light conditions without overwhelming your natural low-light vision; two low intensity settings work with night-vision devices.
Attach accessories - using the integrated MIL-STD-1913 rail mount cross-slots. Large field of view - for fast target acquisition and tracking of moving targets.
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From my experience this is an awesome scope. Leupold Mark 4 1-3x14mm CQ/T Specifications:
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From my experience this is an awesome scope. Leupold Mark 4 1-3x14mm CQ/T Specifications:

True 1x setting - functions as your non-magnifying, illuminated sight for tactical scenarios or engaging targets at extremely close range.
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That cost less than I thought.

Still more than the rifle.

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From my experience this is an awesome scope. Leupold Mark 4 1-3x14mm CQ/T Specifications:

True 1x setting - functions as your non-magnifying, illuminated sight for tactical scenarios or engaging targets at extremely close range.
2x or 3x settings - the additional power you need to accurately engage targets at medium ranges.
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Attach accessories - using the integrated MIL-STD-1913 rail mount cross-slots. Large field of view - for fast target acquisition and tracking of moving targets.
is it like a EOTech where it doesn't matter what angle you're looking through it?

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is it like a EOTech where it doesn't matter what angle you're looking through it?
Yes, I think that is one of the best things about this scope. I'm sure there area others out there, but I don't know of any with that feature that still has a 3x zoom.

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Yes, I think that is one of the best things about this scope. I'm sure there area others out there, but I don't know of any with that feature that still has a 3x zoom.
Cool, but crikey that's expensive!

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is it like a EOTech where it doesn't matter what angle you're looking through it?
It's not like it, but close to it. I prefer thismuch better than EOTech. I wasn't a big fan of the magnifying attachment for the EOTech.
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It's not like it, but close to it. I prefer thismuch better than EOTech. I wasn't a big fan of the magnifying attachment for the EOTech.
huh.

I was considering the EOTech magnifier, since I love the speed of the EOTech.

I'm gonna hafta check out this Leupold....

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huh.

I was considering the EOTech magnifier, since I love the speed of the EOTech.

I'm gonna hafta check out this Leupold....
I always thought that the magnifier was gay as hell. I don't like extra crap hanging off the weapon. I carried an ACOG over there and loved it. The downside, it's a fixed power scope.
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I always thought that the magnifier was gay as hell. I don't like extra crap hanging off the weapon. I carried an ACOG over there and loved it. The downside, it's a fixed power scope.
I thought it looks cool but it has been a long time since I had to hump a rifle so the less weight the better.

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