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post #1 of 52 (permalink) Old 10-11-2009, 12:29 AM Thread Starter
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Quick question on rules..

EDIT: The BATF Springfield office ruled today I don't have to wait 12 months to sell as an individual since I'm now out of business. All remaining inventory is free to dispose of as I see fit. All you need is a valid FOID card!!!


As of Oct 1st, my FFL has expired. Not enough margin to keep a shop open this year after long backorders set in after the "2009 run on guns".. The current plan is to get some better machining equipment and re-up to a manufacturer's license next June, so I can turn out low quantities of custom rifles in my garage.

To the question.. the forum rules state no dealers can advertise, but I'm technically not a dealer now and I've got a ton of guns, ammo, and accessories I'd like to unload this winter to get metalworking equipment to get set up for the manufacterer FFL.

So I'm asking permission from the moderators to post up periodic lists.

Anyway if you say OK, then I'll post up lists and pictures to give forum members first crack at some of the relatively hard to find stuff. If you say NOT OK, then I'll auction the stuff off on Gunbroker. Simple enough.

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Not sure how much help that will or could be... but if you are interested PM me and I will check with them
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I could run anything I receipted from the last 12 months through any current FFL holder. I just can't do direct person to person with those in Illinois. Anything to Indiana residents would need to go through an FFL regardless.

That's just for the guns, most of what I want to post up is ammo or accessories. I'm sitting on a mountain of crap now that I've closed the gun shop. Still got 6,000+ rounds of 308, 4000+ 40S&W, **11,000** specialty 50 cal projectiles (AP, API, APIT, Tracer, Spotter Tracer, FMJ), 6,000 once-fired 50 BMG, 20,000 once fired 45 ACP Federal Match, 5000+ once fired 30-06, etc... etc.. I could go on for an hour and not make a dent in it.

Just need to clear out the shop, and the basement here.. the wife isn't happy it's all coming home to get piled with all the other crap I've already got here...

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wow trent, didnt take you for a gun nut (person)
that's badass, good luck w/ sales my man.

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You'd have posted this a week or two ago I would have been able to help... Knob creek is going on this weekend and I have a friend with a table there. Would have all been gone at once for a good price.

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Trent, I'm still looking for powder, projectiles, and primer. PM me if you have what I need.

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I'm putting a list together with prices this week to post, it'll take awhile becuase there's a lot of crap to sort through and catalog, so please be patient!

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Any linking equipment or links for the M249?
Negative. I'm in Illinois, remember? Try knob creek.

PS those are fun to shoot, I rented one at KCR machinegun shoot in Fall 07:

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Looking for a 357 revolver pm me if you have anything.
Nada. I've got one, but it's a snub nosed little bastard that has been in the family for 70+ years. I'm keeping that one for obvious reasons.

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Any 7.62x39?
When the price went up earlier this year I dumped the remaining 50,000 rounds on gunbroker and at Dave's Trading post in Pekin. What I have left is to feed my rifles (probably got 2k rounds left for my own use).

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I'll take a copy of your list.

Looking for AR anything, any caliber and lots of them. I'm sitting on 16 lowers that need to be completed.

The .50 cal ammo I might be interetsed in a well depending on what projectiles it has and who loaded it.

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I've got to clean this list up some..just a dump from Excel for now.

Here's the guns. Serious offers only, pictures and / or price on request. Please give me a day or two to respond, I have a day job and may have to travel to pick up the weapon for photos (I live a half hour from where some are stored at the old shop). ALL firearms will need to go through an FFL holder of your choice. No direct person to person sales. This method of transfer is NON NEGOTIABLE so do NOT ask me to 'make an exception'.

The list of ammo, magazines, and other accessories will have to wait for awhile. When those are compiled in to a list with prices, I'll post them.

I'll consider offers on firearms, but reserve the right to reject any stupid lowball ones. Some of these guns are quite expensive or rare or both (Barrett, Steyer SSG, etc) and I will not part with them for any less $$ than I could reasonably auction them off for, or what I paid for them. The ones marked NEW have NEVER been fired except at the factory, they were unsold inventory from when I closed. The ones marked otherwise I can grade and send pics if necessary. No, it is not a typo, I really DO have 13 FN P90's for sale, and a ton of AR receivers.


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Armi Jager Italy Dakota 45 Colt Revolver Pistol N/A

Barrett M95 50 BMG Bolt Action Rifle "Leupold Long Range Tactical Scope, Leupold Extra High sight rings, 3 spare magazines, Pelican Carrying Case"

Browning A5 12 Gauge Semiauto Shotgun

Cavalry Arms Custom AR-15 5.56 NATO Semiauto Rifle "Collapsible Stock, NM Trigger Groups, Hogue Grip, RMS Front & Rear Flip Sights, Bushnell Yardage Pro Laser Rangefinding Scope, Daniel Defense Freefloat Front Assy, Harris Ultralight Swivel Bipod, Wilson Air Gauged Stainless Heavy Match Barrel chambered in 223 Wylde, Front Pistol Grip, Hvy Match Gas Port Assy"
(Picture already in the pic thread in this forum)

Century Intl Arms AK Pistol 7.62x39mm Semiauto Pistol N/A

Century Intl Arms AK Pistol 7.62x39mm Semiauto Pistol New In Box

Century Intl Arms M70AB2 Rifle 7.62x39mm Semiauto Rifle N/A

Century Intl Arms RFM76 8mm Semiauto Rifle Russian Night Optics

Century Intl Arms SKS MDL 7.62x39mm Semiauto Rifle Hand Select / EX Grade

Century Intl Arms CETME Sporter 7.62mm NATO Semiauto Rifle New In Box

Century Intl Arms WASR10 7.62x39mm Semiauto Rifle New In Box

Century Intl Arms WASR10 7.62x39mm Semiauto Rifle New In Box

Century Intl Arms M91/30 7.62x54R Bolt Action Rifle Excellent Condition

Century Intl Arms M91/30 7.62x54R Bolt Action Rifle Excellent Condition

Century Intl Arms M91/30 7.62x54R Bolt Action Rifle Excellent Condition

Fab Oviedo 1933 Spanish Mauser 7x57mm Bolt Action Rifle "Matching Numbers, Original Bayonet"

FNH USA FiveSeven 5.7x28mm Semiauto Pistol Fobus Holster

FNH USA FS2000 5.56 NATO Semiauto Rifle New in box

FNH USA FS2000 5.56 NATO Semiauto Rifle EOTECH 552 holosight

FNH USA PS90 5.7x28mm Semiauto Rifle Shellholder Attachment

FNH USA PS90 5.7x28mm Semiauto Rifle New In Box

FNH USA PS90 5.7x28mm Semiauto Rifle New In Box

FNH USA PS90 5.7x28mm Semiauto Rifle New In Box

FNH USA PS90 5.7x28mm Semiauto Rifle New In Box

FNH USA PS90 5.7x28mm Semiauto Rifle New In Box

FNH USA PS90 5.7x28mm Semiauto Rifle New In Box

FNH USA PS90 5.7x28mm Semiauto Rifle New In Box

FNH USA PS90 5.7x28mm Semiauto Rifle New In Box

FNH USA PS90 5.7x28mm Semiauto Rifle New In Box

FNH USA PS90 5.7x28mm Semiauto Rifle New In Box

FNH USA PS90 5.7x28mm Semiauto Rifle New In Box

FNH USA TACTICAL POLICE SHOTGUN 12 Gauge Pump Shotgun New In Box

Glock 19 9x19mm Semiauto Pistol "Fobus IWB Holster, Fobus OWB Holster, Fobus Mag Holster, ext. slide release, NY trigger pack, extended mag release, titanium mainspring"

Glock 21 45 ACP Semiauto Pistol "Shoulder Holster, Glock Laser/Light assembly, extended slide release, NY trigger pack, hogue grip, tritium night sights"

H&K SL8 5.56 NATO Semiauto Rifle Accushot 168 Scope

H&K USP Tactical 45 45 ACP Semiauto Pistol Custom case

Hi Point 995 9mm Semiauto Rifle New In Box

Intrac Arms AK 74 (CUR2 Romanian) 5.45x39mm Semiauto Rifle East German Folding Stock

Mossberg MB590 12 Gauge Pump Shotgun New In Box

Mossberg MB590 12 Gauge Pump Shotgun New In Box

Norinco NHM91 7.62x39mm Semiauto Rifle w/ bipod (very used)

Norinco NHM91 7.62x39mm Semiauto Rifle w/ bipod (very used)

Rock River Arms AR-15 Receiver 5.56 NATO Semiauto Rifle New In Box

Rock River Arms AR-15 Receiver 5.56 NATO Semiauto Rifle New In Box

Rock River Arms AR-15 Receiver 5.56 NATO Semiauto Rifle New In Box

Rock River Arms AR-15 Receiver 5.56 NATO Semiauto Rifle New In Box

Rock River Arms AR-15 Receiver 5.56 NATO Semiauto Rifle New In Box

Rock River Arms AR-15 Receiver 5.56 NATO Semiauto Rifle New In Box

Rock River Arms AR-15 Receiver 5.56 NATO Semiauto Rifle New In Box

Rock River Arms AR-15 Receiver 5.56 NATO Semiauto Rifle New In Box

Rock River Arms AR-15 Receiver 5.56 NATO Semiauto Rifle New In Box

Rock River Arms AR-15 Receiver 5.56 NATO Semiauto Rifle New In Box

Rock River Arms AR-15 Receiver 5.56 NATO Semiauto Rifle New In Box

Rock River Arms AR-15 Receiver 5.56 NATO Semiauto Rifle New In Box

Rock River Arms AR-15 Receiver 5.56 NATO Semiauto Rifle New In Box

Rock River Arms AR-15 Receiver 5.56 NATO Semiauto Rifle New In Box

Rock River Arms AR-15 Receiver 5.56 NATO Semiauto Rifle New In Box

Rock River Arms AR-15 Receiver 5.56 NATO Semiauto Rifle New In Box

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Rock River Arms AR-15 Receiver 5.56 NATO Semiauto Rifle New In Box

Rock River Arms AR-15 Receiver 5.56 NATO Semiauto Rifle New In Box

Ruger 10/22 Match 22 LR Semiauto Rifle New In Box

Savage Arms 110 22-250 Bolt Action Rifle "Leupold Vari-X 3
Scope, Burris Rings, Harris Ultralight Swivel Bipod, Custom Choat Stock"

Sig Sauer P225 9mm Semiauto Pistol Used Excellent Condition

Sig Sauer P225 9mm Semiauto Pistol Used Excellent Condition

Smith & Wesson M&P 45 Stainless 45 ACP Semiauto Pistol Fobus Holster

Smith & Wesson M&P 9 9mm Semiauto Pistol New In Box

Smith & Wesson M&P 40 40 S&W Semiauto Pistol New In Box

Smith & Wesson M&P 45 45 ACP Semiauto Pistol New In Box

Smith & Wesson M&P 9 9mm Semiauto Pistol New In Box

Springfield Armory XD45 45ACP Semiauto Pistol XD Gear Kit (Used by me in 2
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Stag Arms AR-15 Receiver 5.56 NATO Semiauto Rifle New In Box

Stag Arms AR-15 Receiver 5.56 NATO Semiauto Rifle New In Box

Stag Arms AR-15 Receiver 5.56 NATO Semiauto Rifle New In Box

Stag Arms AR-15 Receiver 5.56 NATO Semiauto Rifle New In Box

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Stag Arms AR-15 Receiver 5.56 NATO Semiauto Rifle New In Box

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Steyer SSG Sniper Rifle 7.62x51mm Bolt Action Rifle "Kayless
Wein Scope, paratrooper bag, quick detatch rings, 10 magazines"

Taurus PT145 Pro 45 ACP Semiauto Pistol Used (by me) EX Condition 2 mags

Taurus PT24/7 Pro 9x19mm Semiauto Pistol Used (by me) EX Condition

Taurus PT92AFS 9x19mm Semiauto Pistol New In Box

Taurus PT24/7 Pro Stainless 40 S&W Semiauto Pistol New In Box

Taurus PT24/7 40 S&W Semiauto Pistol New In Box

Taurus PT24/7 Stainless 45 ACP Semiauto Pistol New In Box

Swiss K31 7.5 Swiss Bolt Action Rifle Orig. Swiss Army Soldier's ID tag under buttplate

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I have a friend who I think just sold his m249
I can check with him... He is an FFL as well (in Indiana)
He was down at the creek this weekend.. So who knows what he picked up/sold

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Trent, I'm still looking for powder, projectiles, and primer. PM me if you have what I need.
I haven't cataloged the reloading stuff yet. It'll be a while, maybe a week or two - doing ammo, magazines, accessories, then reloading stuff.

Will put the list up on this thread when I get there, so keep your eyes open.

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go for it, just keep in mind if you can give the admins and moderators 1st crack with discounts if you can so we all can benefit.

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Fuck that shit. Don't give the admins and mods shit. It's a free for all.

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Fuck that shit. Don't give the admins and mods shit. It's a free for all.

fuck that shit, dont sell this fuckstick anything!



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I'll take a copy of your list.

Looking for AR anything, any caliber and lots of them. I'm sitting on 16 lowers that need to be completed.

The .50 cal ammo I might be interetsed in a well depending on what projectiles it has and who loaded it.
Not on the list I posted earlier.. but I've got 14-18 AR barrels of various types all in 223. Mostly chrome moly military, some with front sight blocks mounted (a couple with circular CAR mounts, a couple with A2 triangle type), others just bare. You could knock off the front sight block and swap those which are already fixed if you wanted to build one freefloated of course. I've also got a big box of front sight /gas blocks, and a big box of magazine releases (at least 100 that I picked up at a show for something stupid like 10 cents each..). But.. I'm missing pretty much everything else. Pretty much was buying parts as I found them, planning on building up a series of rifles (got a couple dozen receivers too!).

As usual with my projects, real life got in the way and I never finished.

I also have two AR-10 bolts, unfinished in the white, one or two AR-10 barrels in 270 winchester, and maybe some other misc parts for them. (Would have to look to be sure, hesitant to post up what I'm *not* sure about and I haven't got to cataloging any parts yet).

I've got somewhere in the neighborhood of 100 or so new magazines for AR-15's as well, mostly new milspec with green followers. Some steel taiwan ones, which are sturdy but may need honed to feed reliably. Also got a mixed bucket full of used mags, mostly military hand me downs that are REALLY hit & miss but most I've found can be aligned pretty easy and shoot just fine for range practice where you drop 'em in the dirt (saving the new shiney ones for when matches or home defense...). I bought a big batch of them mainly for spare springs and floorplates for a buck or two a pop.

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ALL firearms will need to go through an FFL holder of your choice. No direct person to person sales. This method of transfer is NON NEGOTIABLE so do NOT ask me to 'make an exception'.
What does this mean, btw?
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When it comes to buying and selling firearms, there are rules and regulations. An FFL allows an individual/business to buy and sell firearms between states.

Here's a quick overview which is by no means comprehensive:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Firearms_License

Normally if you do a deal involving an FFL, the seller takes the firearm to a local FFL holder (usually a shop/dealer), and the shop/dealer then deals with some paperwork and ships it to your FFL, who in turn makes you pay them some $$ for the hassle and then transfers the firearm to you.
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Thanks, Andy! If we decide to purchase something, do you have a recommendation for an FFL?
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What does this mean, btw?
This means if you want to buy a firearm off of me, that's on the list, that an FFL dealer local to you needs to handle the transfer. Most firearms dealers will do this for a nominal fee - usually between $15-25. They do the background check and transfer the weapon to you, putting it on their bound books.

There's many reasons why I need to do this.

First, if you're in Indiana or Wisconsin, it's technically illegal for me to sell a weapon to someone in another state, as that's trafficing a firearm across state lines without a license. Individuals must transfer firearms to people in other states using a dealer in that state as a medium, and now that I'm without an FFL, that means I'm an individual again. (When I was a dealer, I *could* sell a long arm to someone in my shop from an adjoining state, but not handguns).

(This means, FYI, by the letter of the law, if an Illinois resident goes to a gunshow in Indiana and buys a handgun and returns, this means BOTH you just broke a federal law by completing the transfer - and I'd recommend caution here, because "they" ARE watching this more and setting up stings).

Second, many of the guns on the list are from my gun shop that just closed. FFL holders are restricted by law from transferring weapons to their personal collection, then selling them as an individual, for 12 months after the transfer is recorded. This is to help prevent gun dealers from skirting around background checks to sell guns to people, since person-to-person sales do not typically involve a background check.

Third, and this is particularly important because I don't know ANYONE on here personally outside of a few NESBA guys I ride with, by requiring all weapons go through an FFL holder prior to delivery, this ensures that everyone I sell a gun to has gone THROUGH a background check before receiving the weapon. If anyone has a problem with that, tough shit, I'm not putting guns in the hands of people who shouldn't have them.

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It's a little bit of a drive, but this guy is good. He's a motorcycle rider to boot!

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I know a guy named Ken in Naper.. Don't want to post all of his info publicly on the board.. but I pm'd you

If anyone needs it I will give it out individually.. He said that was cool to do.. Just don't want to put it out on an indexed part of the board
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There's a list of gun dealers that do transfers available on www.gunbroker.com. http://www.gunbroker.com/User/DealerNetwork.asp

Just enter your zip code and it'll find the ones that are close to you. This also lists what fees they charge for the transfer (usually 15-25). In Illinois, they "make" the difference between that and the $2 background check fee the illinois state police charges for each call-in.

It's also quite the handy list when you're shopping around for something hard to find.

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