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How does this work? Does a cop go to a local gun store and trade in his pistol for a new one, which then allows us to buy the used pistols at a cheaper price? Or is there one central place that does all trade ins?
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Dunno about there but the GM here gets used police pistols. Then they "clean" them and try to sell them for the price of a new one.

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I would assume they are sold to dealers by the dept, in bulk. then resold by dealers.




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why would you want a old police gun? i would say for the most part they have more abuse/wear/tear than any gun owned by a private citizen.

its like driving around a old caprice cop car, its a beat to crap, POS of a car.

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its like driving around a old caprice cop car, its a beat to crap, POS of a car.
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why would you want a old police gun? i would say for the most part they have more abuse/wear/tear than any gun owned by a private citizen.

its like driving around a old caprice cop car, its a beat to crap, POS of a car.
Why would you think they are used and abused? Simply put the pds that turn the guns in are in fact most likely never used. They are stored until they are issued to a officer and the ones that are in fact in service would be returned to factory condition by the manufacturer before being sold to anyone. And I believe they also change the serial number on it could be wrong tho

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Why would you think they are used and abused? Simply put the pds that turn the guns in are in fact most likely never used. They are stored until they are issued to a officer and the ones that are in fact in service would be returned to factory condition by the manufacturer before being sold to anyone. And I believe they also change the serial number on it could be wrong tho
You can't change the serial number without restamping the metal.

Most police pistols are lightly used due to having to qualify at certain intervals.

Most police pistols will simply have a lot of holster wear and be in very good mechanical condition.

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why would you want a old police gun? i would say for the most part they have more abuse/wear/tear than any gun owned by a private citizen.

its like driving around a old caprice cop car, its a beat to crap, POS of a car.
You'd be surprised how little a "typical" police officer actually shoots his sidearm. Used cop cars are driven daily... used sidearms, while worn daily, are infrequently if even rarely shot.
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Why would you think they are used and abused? Simply put the pds that turn the guns in are in fact most likely never used. They are stored until they are issued to a officer and the ones that are in fact in service would be returned to factory condition by the manufacturer before being sold to anyone. And I believe they also change the serial number on it could be wrong tho
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You can't change the serial number without restamping the metal.

Most police pistols are lightly used due to having to qualify at certain intervals.

Most police pistols will simply have a lot of holster wear and be in very good mechanical condition.
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You'd be surprised how little a "typical" police officer actually shoots his sidearm. Used cop cars are driven daily... used sidearms, while worn daily, are infrequently if even rarely shot.
yep, and never oiled, never kept good care of, always thrown around like some piece of trash. hell sometimes even have french fries in them!

where is ody for that story.. LOL

i'm not saying that its worn from being fired a lot, i'm saying its worn from being on someones hip 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, then prolly never being oiled or taken care of, just seen as some "thing" that they just throw in a duffel bag and strap on when they get to work.

unless your picking them up for pennies on the dollar, why not just buy new or a used one from a gun shop that someone traded in or whatever? why go "looking" for an old service pistol?

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I wouldn't worry about getting a police Beretta. Every M9 I was issued was awesome, we shot the living shit out of those things and they always worked great. Cops don't really shoot all that much, and I'm sure their refurbs are in much better condition than any USMC issue Beretta. For the dirt cheap price you can get them, I'd say go for it.

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You can't change the serial number without restamping the metal.

Most police pistols are lightly used due to having to qualify at certain intervals.

Most police pistols will simply have a lot of holster wear and be in very good mechanical condition.
No but the manufacture can

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Pd's sell them to dealers who in turn refurb and resell. No PD in the USA will directly sell a used pistol.

Police firearms are normally in top mechanical condition. Wear is from the holster and depending on the gun can be blued again if it's that important. I'd buy one if the deal/price was right. If you're looking for perfection then a used firearm shouldn't even be considered. however, if you want a firearm at a decent price and well maintained then used PD weapons are fine...if you can find one. They normally disappear VERY quickly by gun enthusiasts

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Here is a example

Looks like a beat up POS to me. NOT

Here is a glock 23

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Thanks guys. I read on ar15.com about police trade ins and the deals some ppl find, but being around this area I didn't think I'd have any luck finding one.
I personally like the 92Fs. Carried one as a backup weapon for a bit in the Army and everything I read about it shows how reliable they are. Plus they feel good in my hand unlike the glocks.

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Thanks guys. I read on ar15.com about police trade ins and the deals some ppl find, but being around this area I didn't think I'd have any luck finding one.
I personally like the 92Fs. Carried one as a backup weapon for a bit in the Army and everything I read about it shows how reliable they are. Plus they feel good in my hand unlike the glocks.
Everyone has a "What feels best/good" in their own hands. For me it was a toss up (depending on the circumstances; obviously different) between a German made (not any other kind) PPK or a Mark 23. A small handfull of others made the list, but those were consistently the top two.

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CDNN pretty much always has cop trade-ins. No reason at all not to get a cop P92 if that is what you want. The quality control procedures these go through might be the best in the industry. After the errant slide issue they had in the late 80's with the M9 (was an armorer then, we replaced some 200 units due to this) I don't recall any problem at all. I do not share Rob's love of this pistol though...

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so.... why not just buy new?

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Thanks guys. I read on ar15.com about police trade ins and the deals some ppl find, but being around this area I didn't think I'd have any luck finding one.
I personally like the 92Fs. Carried one as a backup weapon for a bit in the Army and everything I read about it shows how reliable they are. Plus they feel good in my hand unlike the glocks.
If you have not yet, try a CZ75. Many people find it to be very good in the hand. And shoots even better. Much like a Browning HP, but I think a bit improved in feel and design.

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The Beretta is kind of a chunky thing, and works well if you've got some decent sized paws. That said, there are alot of much better options out there.

The Sig 226/228/229 line is very nice for normal sized hands, just as reliable as the M9 (passed the same M9 pistol trials but was more expensive for DoD to procure, so they opted for the Beretta instead. There's widespread allegations of politics playing into that choice over the Sig as well)

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You'd be surprised how little a "typical" police officer actually shoots his sidearm. Used cop cars are driven daily... used sidearms, while worn daily, are infrequently if even rarely shot.
Very true, I've heard of a lot of officers that only shoot 60 rounds a year (qualification).

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Why in the world would DPD issue 27's? Anyone know if they issue back ups?

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Why wouldnt you issue the 40 cal.? Its amll compact and most likely what they were carrying before so they didnt differ from the 40 since ammo isnt cheap hell there are youtube videos of a two hitting targets 200 yards away with it

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The Beretta is kind of a chunky thing, and works well if you've got some decent sized paws.
me no like it, i love my XD way better goodly than the Beretta. the thing just feels so big in my hands, and i have big hands, but the trigger feel, grip, everything just doesn't feel good to me.

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me no like it, i love my XD way better goodly than the Beretta. the thing just feels so big in my hands, and i have big hands, but the trigger feel, grip, everything just doesn't feel good to me.
Lonely Raven was nice enough to let me handle his XD 40. It did feel good in my hand and I do like it. How ever to me the 92Fs is like a 1911. It's classic, dependable, and the cop trade in is usually about half that of a new one.
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me no like it, i love my XD way better goodly than the Beretta. the thing just feels so big in my hands, and i have big hands, but the trigger feel, grip, everything just doesn't feel good to me.
Yeah, get back to me after firing a couple hundred rounds without gloves...that trigger safety hurts after a while. I still enjoy both my XD, and I'll probably converter my .40 Tactical to .357 SIG for old times sake.

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Yeah, get back to me after firing a couple hundred rounds without gloves...that trigger safety hurts after a while. I still enjoy both my XD, and I'll probably converter my .40 Tactical to .357 SIG for old times sake.
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Why wouldnt you issue the 40 cal.? Its amll compact and most likely what they were carrying before so they didnt differ from the 40 since ammo isnt cheap hell there are youtube videos of a two hitting targets 200 yards away with it
I doubt they issued their officers a sub compact for duty use unless DPD issues back ups. I could care less what caliber, I use .40 in my duty gun.

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