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Just curious how many of you are out there. Unfortunately I got it bad and it slows me down but I bring my inhaler with and tough it out. Sucks reading about people running 6 min miles and I'm here stuck at 9-10 due to not being able to breath. Anybody got any tips or tricks so it doesn't sneak up as bad? Asthma is actually what got me started running (to try and control it so it doesn't effect me on daily activities and sports).

Maybe shorter runs at a faster pace? Longer runs at slower pace? Alternating?

Right now im doing avg 5-6 miles a day but at a slower pace so I can finish.

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I have self induced asthma via smoking massive amounts of cigarettes and weed. I can run a 6 min mile. Go as fast you can and see what happens. Sometimes I feel like puking and can't catch my breath but I've got a big dick and I work through it.

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I've had mild asthma all my life. Probably nothing compared to what you're going through. All I can say is it's a little challenging to improve but by keeping at it I've been able to get decent at running. The best part is, the more fit I've gotten the less the asthma has effected me. I used to wake up at night weasing. I camt remember the last time that's happened to me.

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. The best part is, the more fit I've gotten the less the asthma has effected me. I used to wake up at night weasing. I camt remember the last time that's happened to me.
Friend of mine used to have asthma pretty bad. started getting in shape to pass a fit test for a gvmt job, dropped a bunch of weight and hasnt had problems with it in a long time.

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See it doesn't effect me on daily stuff. The only time it kicks me hard is when I run fast. At that point If I held a good pace I'd be lucky to get half a mile before collapsing. But its good to hear over time running will drop the effects of it.

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If you have allergies that trigger the asthma don't go out running without popping some allergy meds first, deep breaths of pollen put me down pretty quick. During especially bad times (spring and fall for me), I do better running indoors unfortunately. Sucks, just work around it as best you can and understand your limits, don't put yourself in the hospital for something stupid like a training run.

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Don't run fast. Do some distance training. You can do an entire marathon and be able to talk the whole time if you just build distance. As you do that you'll also find you'll be able to run short distances easier too. Before you know it you'll run 6/min miles for a 5k while talking to your friends the whole time. Seriously, just run more.

Rule of thumb: run often, sometimes hard but mostly easy.

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I would also talk to your doctor about your meds.

I've always been an active person, but was hindered w/ asthma to the point where I would vomit if I over extended myself. Singulair came out and I was told by my dr. that, and I quote, "Isn't for people like me". I asked for further clarification and he said I could try it. I was searching for anything since I would go through an inhaler every 3-4 weeks. Well, it worked for me and I haven't gone through an inhaler in over 7 years. Not saying singulair is the drug for you, but sometimes different combinations affect others differently.

If that route doesn't help, be sure you are taking the inhaler 15 min. prior to activity. Are you on an inhaled steriod? If so, be sure to take that consistently. I also agree with Meulen...work on distance...not speed.


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You run 5-6 miles a day?

That's 5-6 more than me and I don't have asthma so you are doing well!!!
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I used to have terrible asthma (own set of oxygen tanks, neb unit, etc...) set off by activity / stress / sickness / pollen, you name it, it fucked me up... up until the fall of '09. I always heard that a lot of people grow out if it in their late teens / early twenties... It took me until my late twenties. Every day I run and I don't come home wheezing/dying/crawling around gasping for air is a truly amazing feeling.

I'm not fast by any means, and I don't carry any inhalers any more. I don't even know where one is actually. You're already running farther than I am more often, so I'm not sure I have any advice for ya. The only time I've run 5mi my heart rate hit 204 and i was sore for days.
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Don't run fast. Do some distance training. You can do an entire marathon and be able to talk the whole time if you just build distance. As you do that you'll also find you'll be able to run short distances easier too. Before you know it you'll run 6/min miles for a 5k while talking to your friends the whole time. Seriously, just run more.

Rule of thumb: run often, sometimes hard but mostly easy.
Thats what I was looking for. I wasnt sure if the avg running training would be better (run 10 walk 5 then sprint at the end) but so far 5-6 miles takes me roughly an hour and thats with breaks in between so im not killing myself.
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I would also talk to your doctor about your meds.

I've always been an active person, but was hindered w/ asthma to the point where I would vomit if I over extended myself. Singulair came out and I was told by my dr. that, and I quote, "Isn't for people like me". I asked for further clarification and he said I could try it. I was searching for anything since I would go through an inhaler every 3-4 weeks. Well, it worked for me and I haven't gone through an inhaler in over 7 years. Not saying singulair is the drug for you, but sometimes different combinations affect others differently.

If that route doesn't help, be sure you are taking the inhaler 15 min. prior to activity. Are you on an inhaled steriod? If so, be sure to take that consistently. I also agree with Meulen...work on distance...not speed.


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Thanks,

Unfortunately I haven't been to a Dr in years so I'll have to find one. But day to day I never need an inhaler. Its only when I run, thats the only trigger i have luckily. No neb or anything.

That drug does sound interesting though. But im not sure if itll help me running wise or if its for the random attacks?

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At the point where you are at in your fitness you are going to benefit more from easy miles than you are speedwork anyhow. If you ran 4x per week for 2-3 miles and built a medium length and long run out of 2 of those runs you will get faster for all lengths and avoid over use injuries. Some people even say you shouldn't do any speedwork until you can run 1/2 or even full marathons.

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I also have asthma, but mine was adult onset. It's been a huge adjustment. My doctor suggested some lung exercises, and they did help. http://www.yourasthmatreatment.com/a...-exercises.htm

You need to find a good doctor, they can give you steroids, or put you on a neb for pre-run to open the bronchial tubes. I use it in the mornings before going out into cold air, as that is one of my biggest triggers. If you go that route, check out wal-mart, I get my prefilled packets in a 90 day supply box for $10. They are cheaper than anyone else, even without running it through my insurance. Also Target offers some meds for the same deal. I got sick with a nasty sinus infection, and it turned into bronchitus, and they put me on symbicort, and the neb 2 times a day, it helped a ton within the first 24 hours. Good luck, if you need a doc I have a great one but he's in Joliet, worth the trip for sure. He almost always has samples for the inhalers, and usually gives me a few so there are no scripts to fill. Let me know if you want his info.

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At the point where you are at in your fitness you are going to benefit more from easy miles than you are speedwork anyhow. If you ran 4x per week for 2-3 miles and built a medium length and long run out of 2 of those runs you will get faster for all lengths and avoid over use injuries. Some people even say you shouldn't do any speedwork until you can run 1/2 or even full marathons.
I'm one of the people that believes the opposite, do speedwork "intervals" "sprints" "fartleks" whatever you gotta do to get the lactic acid production up, and teaching the body to excrete it. LSD runs and long twitch muscle fibers are important, but long runs ain't worth much if you have no muscle from the beginning.
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You're certainly entitled
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There aren't many people in the running world that think that way. That theory could work with very young runners or freak of nature people who don't get over use injuries. But, most people that concentrate heavy on speedwork and ignore distance and volume end up injured. It's why there are 10% volume increase principles in 95% of the run programs out there and they only include speedwork in advanced running plans. If its taking an hour to run 6 miles he's far from the point where advanced plans wouldn't be over doing it.

In silent's case he can't do that anyway. He will be doing well to increase volume. It's his only option and I'd bet on the fact it will make him faster.

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There aren't many people in the running world that think that way. That theory could work with very young runners or freak of nature people who don't get over use injuries. But, most people that concentrate heavy on speedwork and ignore distance and volume end up injured. It's why there are 10% volume increase principles in 95% of the run programs out there and they only include speedwork in advanced running plans. If its taking an hour to run 6 miles he's far from the point where advanced plans wouldn't be over doing it.

In silent's case he can't do that anyway. He will be doing well to increase volume. It's his only option and I'd bet on the fact it will make him faster.
A short amount of time for me is 30 minutes, and I don't run anymore. Shit, I remember when 30 minutes was just a warmup to a 5k race. Slow twitch muscle fibers are extremely important, just as V02 max is, and there's something about the duration of recovery in V02 max training that I agree with much more than slow twitch recovery time. I found myself injured much more due to the LSD runs on Sunday of 15+ miles, rather than a few fartleks totaling 10 minutes with a 15min warmup and a 10min cooldown.

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whatever happened to have a pre race cigarette and go run like your ass is on fire? This fancy schmancy training regimen takes the fun out of things.

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