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September 2013 Running Challenge

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chicagoavatar - 129 miles
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ill ag - 34.1 miles
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+6 for 6 total. 7:49 pace at 160 average HR, compared to back in May I did the same distance run at 7:56 pace but with a 170 average HR. This is why I use a watch and why it's important to keep stats on your workouts.

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another 5.25 miles with run group in the 5 @ 5am

JRSMAIL - 5.25 miles + 5.25 = 10.5 total miles.

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JRSMAIL - 5.25 miles + 5.25 + 3 at lunch = 13.5 total miles

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+6 for 6 total. 7:49 pace at 160 average HR, compared to back in May I did the same distance run at 7:56 pace but with a 170 average HR. This is why I use a watch and why it's important to keep stats on your workouts.
Not trolling... Do you do anything to bring your heart rate down? Either during your run, or do you modify your training to get there? I feel like it's good to know, but isn't your lower HR just a factor of your consistent training?

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Well, I have a certain idea on training which is different than others maybe. A high HR is good, and a low HR is good too, for different things reflecting different parts of your training. They are two different systems, and work on different energy sources, and need to be trained by different methods. For steady state runs like this (non race runs) I like to have the lowest HR for a certain pace, which does mean my training is consistent and my running is getting "better", or more efficient. At the same time, for racing, you need to be able to run at your highest HR also, which is partly a factor of your base training or low HR. The ability to get a higher max HR will allow you to run faster for a given fitness level.

Yes I try different things to see what works for me and my body. I'm a cyclist, not a runner, so my larger legs and quads like to move slower compared to a runner's thinner legs. For shorter races I can reduce my cadence to use more muscle and go faster, but longer races I need to adjust my cadence a bit higher, which is what I've been working on lately for the Olympic distance races. In my runs I can see my average HR is coming down for a certain pace when I pick up my cadence, which means that for racing I can let my HR climb to the moon and hold a higher pace with that cadence. Any of that make sense?

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Any of that make sense?
Amazingly, in my mind it does

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By the way CP, what is the most you've gotten your HR up to in a race? Just curious. I did a 10k last year and when I crossed the finish line I was over 200 bpm. 201, 203, somewhere in that range. I was really hurting!

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By the way CP, what is the most you've gotten your HR up to in a race? Just curious. I did a 10k last year and when I crossed the finish line I was over 200 bpm. 201, 203, somewhere in that range. I was really hurting!
I have been slightly over 200 a few times, but usually I will reach high 190s in most races that have a sprint or hard finish. One MTB race a few years ago I hit 205, but I felt dizzy after that and I would guess I had some mild heat stroke which jacks your HR up. My training is changing too with all my endurance rides. I have a hard time getting my HR way up now without hardly any serious intervals or max HR training. Cyclocross will take care of that pretty quickly though.

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Any of that make sense?
Totally. I was mostly curious if you used it more for analysis of your run (or bike), or of you actually adjusted your pace based on HR at a given spot in your workout. Good info, I've been trying to justify buying one, but I have really lost my motivation to race. I've been in a 'general fitness' routine for a while, but I'm getting the itch again. New toys would help me get back into it.

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I am starting to freak out about this stupid race. I had to get new shoes yesterday-- 4 days out and I'm getting new shoes! And I have no clue how I'm going to get a good pre-race meal at 4:30am in my hotel. Freakout mode: engaged.
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Oatmeal with walnuts and such for the pre-race, done.

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Totally. I was mostly curious if you used it more for analysis of your run (or bike), or of you actually adjusted your pace based on HR at a given spot in your workout. Good info, I've been trying to justify buying one, but I have really lost my motivation to race. I've been in a 'general fitness' routine for a while, but I'm getting the itch again. New toys would help me get back into it.
I use it for everything. Sometimes, like today's run, I just use it to concentrate on keeping my HR low and work on cadence and breathing, other days I want to keep a certain pace to compare with other runs at that pace to see where HR is going, which might indicate over or under training or lack of recovery/dehydration etc., and sometimes I will use it for sprint intervals making sure I go at a certain pace and then recover.

If you get a new toy it definitely keeps you motivated, and addicted to stats, which IMO improves your performance because everything is quantifiable now. As long as you keep to your training and don't obsess about making every workout a home run for stats unless that is the goal then you'll be alright.

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I am starting to freak out about this stupid race. I had to get new shoes yesterday-- 4 days out and I'm getting new shoes! And I have no clue how I'm going to get a good pre-race meal at 4:30am in my hotel. Freakout mode: engaged.
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Oatmeal with walnuts and such for the pre-race, done.
Yeah for like $30, because where the hell else am I going to get oatmeal at 5am? I'm going to have to pack some food. I hate being the fatty who travels with their own food
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You're either a fatty, or a high level elite athlete that is so finely tuned they have specific diet requirements and run 5 minute miles. Those are the only people that bring food.

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You're either a fatty, or a high level elite athlete that is so finely tuned they have specific diet requirements and run 5 minute miles. Those are the only people that bring food.
I don't run 5 minute miles, and I definitely run so I can eat things like brownies and ice cream.
Fatty it is!
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