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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 09-13-2004, 06:20 AM Thread Starter
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Fluids???

During my past workouts, I rarely or never take fluids. At the end of workouts, I usually have a couple pints of water. I have extended my workouts now, to jogging for an hour, 30 minutes on the health rider and 45 minutes to an hour on the heavy bag. The last 15 minutes on the heavy bag, sometimes I feel drained, exhausted, to downright weak. People suggest I do some sort of energy drink (gatorade). I have also heard (can't remember where) that you would have to run a full maranthon before your body requires any of the "energy" stuff from energy drinks, that all your body needs to be re-hyrdated. So do I start taken in water or energy drinks? One lifter I know makes his own energy drink, which is nothing more than Welch's grape Juice and water, 30% juice and 70% water, because your body cannot handle more than 7% fructose intake, or else you end up with a sugar high, then crash after that. Any thoughts?

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I have a flexable mixture of Whey protein and Dextrose (corn sugar). I mix in more protein after lifting and more sugar after cardio.

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Here's some random thoughts (your results may vary).

I know one guy that "water loads" before every workout/game/etc. He drinks as much water as he can (about a gallon) an hour before he begins the activity. Claims it keeps him cool, hydrated, etc. for about an hour and a half of heavy exercise. I've tried it during the basketball season and it really seemed to help.

Now for the more unorthodox: Another buddy will drink up to a gallon of chicken stock before heading to the gym. His rationale is that it's super good for you, and because it is absorbed into the body faster than almost any other liquid (the good stuff anyway) you can drink a gallon and not feel full. I believe he makes his own to keep the sodium content down a bit vs. taking down a gallon of Campbell's... but I suspect you'd get similar results off the shelf.

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post #4 of 7 (permalink) Old 09-13-2004, 09:51 AM
 
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I would suggest that you change the order that you do your routine. Start with the health rider followed by the heavy bag and finish with the fog. Or you could switch the health rider and the jog. The reason you are feeling weak is because your body is running out of atp. If you hit the bag earlier you will be stronger and have more energy. At this point in your workout you are spent and your body can't easily tap into the fat stores for energy(your secondary energy supply) but doing cardio(aerobic) your body will tap into the fat stores more easily. As for energy drinks go drink plenty of water before during and after. If you really want to make a difference try drinking water mixed with L-Glutamine. I drink this during all my workouts.
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Are you doing endurance training/sports? Can you only work out once a day? 45 minutes - hour on the bag....Wow! And 2 - 2 1/2 hours at a stretch....Wow again! That's a lot to take in. If you can sustain that sort of conditioning I'm all for it...but if you are really fighting it at the end you might want to break up your routine (or place some alternate exercises in there). You are doing some heavy cardio there and your body is either adjusting to it or telling you to stop. Only you can decide which it is I can't comment on the health rider but I would do the bag first then jog last....I always like doing my strength first and my cardio last. I think you'll like that routine a little better. And since you are doing some heavy sweating here...definitely drink some water before, during and after (maybe every 15 - 20 minutes since you are going pretty hard). If you really want to get precise, find out what your sweat rate is and calculate how much fluid you need to rehydrate. It's hard to tell what might be going on here without understanding your full workout routine (daily regiment...exercises, eating, etc.) but knowing you Rick you'll get in the swing of things soon enough. But definitely, drink a lot of water. I'd stay away from the blends, etc. until post-exercise but that is just my opinion.

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Thanks guys for your inputs. I'm trying to get back in shape. I had let it slide too long. I have lost the weight I wanted and now I want to get tone and tight, I DO NOT WANT to bulk up. I am trying to workout at least 5 days a week, but sometimes work out 6 days. I usually do the cardio first, mainly as a warm up routine, then the health rider as a small cool down and tighten regime and the heavy bag, for strenthen, agility and to de stress myself. The whole process is to get in shape for the TRACK.

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Rick, I can't believe it. I thought you knew better. Don't let yourself get dehydrated. It's important to us ummm, not so young, that's it not quite as young as the other guys so we are supposed to be smarter.

Water, water water. You really can't drink too much. For what you are doing don't worry too much about the energy drinks. If I do them I go 3 or 4 to 1 with water. If you are going for a long run drink at least a pint before you hit the road. If you can carry water so much the better. Remember, by the time you are thirsty it's already too late. Try to track on how much pee you porduce during your workouts. You should be pumping enough fluids so you are still pushing plenty through. Remember, if you don't you will get headaches, be tired, be weak, raise your blood pressure and more likely to produce kidney stones. (Yep, I found out the hard way.)
BTW, did I say anything about drinking lots of water?

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