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You may be eating/drinking poison

After three weeks of some intense research, Brian and I are making some big changes now. For me it means quitting my favorite gum, Eclipse by Wrigley’s. For Brian, it’s quitting Diet Coke.

The information is out there, but it’s well hidden and you have to dig for it. Neither the government nor the huge mega million corporations care about our health apparently, if they would, why would they allow us to eat this poison.

But things are changing finally, Pesico (Pepsi) will be coming out with a new soda petty soon which will have a new artificial sweetener.

The newspapers or the media will not tell you this, and you probably won’t hear it on the news either. Pfizer, NutraSweet, Coke, PepsiCo, Wrigleys, Walmart, Bayer, Con Agra Foods, Dannon, Smucker, Kellogg, Kraft Foods (Crystal Light), Conopco (Slim-Fast), Wyeth and a dozen other companies are being sued and are accused of deceiving and poisoning consumers.
So what is this poison that you are secretly ingesting? It’s really not a secret. It’s ASPARTAME.


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PS) Although everything below appearing in “quotes” is copied from other documents, I will not post the reference list here, since it is a page and a half. If anyone is interested about this subject, I have a few documents saved as PDF files. The whole file is 21 pages and a lot of good and scary reading.



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“The toxicity and progressive destruction to users of Aspartame/NutraSweet/Equal was established in three congressional hearings and books by world renowned physicians like Doctors H. J. Roberts, M.D. and Russell Blaylock, M.D.

More complaints have been filed with the FDA on aspartame than on all other food additives combined. FDA once published a list of 92 adverse reactions to this poison from 10,000 consumer reports - symptoms included seizures, blindness and death. FDA doesn't take the complaints any more, nor do they post the reaction list, perhaps because many high ranking FDA officials have joined the NutraSweet industry.”

“Aspartame is the technical name for the brand names, NutraSweet, Equal, Spoonful, and Equal-Measure. Aspartame was discovered by accident in 1965, when James Schlatter, a chemist of G.D. Searle Company was testing an anti-ulcer drug. Aspartame was approved for dry goods in 1981 and for carbonated beverages in 1983. It was originally approved for dry goods on July 26, 1974, but objections filed by neuroscience researcher Dr John W. Olney and Consumer attorney James Turner in August 1974 as well as investigations of G.D. Searle's research practices caused the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to put approval of aspartame on hold (December 5, 1974). In 1985, Monsanto purchased G.D. Searle and made Searle Pharmaceuticals and The NutraSweet Company separate subsidiaries. Aspartame is, by far, the most dangerous substance on the market that is added to foods.”

Why don't we hear about these things?

“The reason many people do not hear about serious reactions to aspartame is twofold:

1) Lack of awareness by the general population. Aspartame-caused diseases are not reported in the newspapers like plane crashes. This is because these incidents occur one at a time in thousands of different locations across the US.

2) Most people do not associate their symptoms with the long-term use of aspartame. For the people who have killed a significant percentage of the brain cells and thereby caused a chronic illness, there is no way that they would normally associate such an illness with aspartame consumption. How aspartame was approved is a lesson in how chemical and pharmaceutical companies can manipulate government agencies such as the FDA, "bribe" organizations such as the American Dietetic Association, and flood the scientific community with flawed and fraudulent industry-sponsored studies funded by the makers of aspartame.”

“The FDA and the manufacturers of aspartame have had a revolving door of employment for many years. In addition to the FDA Commissioner and two US Attorneys leaving to take positions with companies connected with G.D. Searle, four other FDA officials connected with the approval of aspartame took positions connected with the NutraSweet industry between 1979 and 1982 including the Deputy FDA Commissioner, the Special Assistant to the FDA Commissioner, the Associate Director of the Bureau of Foods and Toxicology and the Attorney involved with the Public Board of Inquiry.(24)”
“In 1992, the FDA approved aspartame for use in malt beverages, breakfast cereals, and refrigerated puddings and fillings. In 1993 the FDA approved aspartame for use in hard and soft candies, non-alcoholic favored beverages, tea beverages, fruit juices and concentrates, baked goods and baking mixes, and frostings, toppings and fillings for baked goods.

In 1991, the FDA banned the importation of stevia. The powder of the leaf has been used for hundreds of years as an alternative sweetener. It is used widely in Japan with no adverse effects. Scientists involved in reviewing stevia have declared it to be safe for human consumption - something which has been well known in many parts of the world where it is not banned. Everyone that I have spoken with in regards to this issue believes that stevia was banned to keep the product from taking hold in the US and cutting into sales of aspartame.(26)”

Aspartame consumption is not only a problem in the US. It is being sold in over 70 countries throughout the world.

ASPARTAME CAN BE FOUND IN:
- instant breakfasts
- breath mints
- cereals
- sugar-free chewing gum
- cocoa mixes
- coffee beverages
- frozen desserts
- gelatin desserts
- juice beverages
- laxatives
- multivitamins
- milk drinks
- pharmaceuticals and supplements
- shake mixes
- soft drinks
- tabletop sweeteners
- tea beverages
- instant teas and coffees
- topping mixes
- wine coolers
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ASPARTIC ACID (40% OF ASPARTAME)

Dr Russell L. Blaylock, a professor of Neurosurgery at the Medical University of Mississippi, recently published a book thoroughly detailing the damage that is caused by the ingestion of excessive aspartic acid from aspartame. [Ninety nine percent of monosodium glutamate 9MSG) is glutamic acid. The damage it causes is also documented in Blaylock's book.] Blaylock makes use of almost 500 scientific references to show how excess free excitatory amino acids such as aspartic acid and glutamic acid in our food supply are causing serious chronic neurological disorders and a myriad of other acute symptoms.(3)

SUMMARY OF HOW ASPARTATE (AND GLUTAMATE) CAUSE DAMAGE

Aspartate and glutamate act as neurotransmitters in the brain by facilitating the transmission of information from neuron to neuron. Too much aspartate or glutamate in the brain kills certain neurons by allowing the influx of too much calcium into the cells. This influx triggers excessive amounts of free radicals which kill the cells. The neural cell damage that can be caused by excessive aspartate and glutamate is why they are referred to as "excitotoxins."

They "excite" or stimulate the neural cells to death.

Aspartic acid is an amino acid. Taken in its free form (unbound to proteins) it significantly raises the blood plasma level of aspartate and glutamate. The excess aspartate and glutamate in the blood plasma shortly after ingesting aspartame or products with free glutamic acid (glutamate precursor) leads to a high level of those neurotransmitters in certain areas of the brain.
The blood brain barrier (BBB) which normally protects the brain from excess glutamate and aspartate as well as toxins 1) is not fully developed during childhood, 2) does not fully protect all areas of the brain, 3) is damaged by numerous chronic and acute conditions, and 4) allows seepage of excess glutamate and aspartate into the brain even when intact.

The excess glutamate and aspartate slowly begin to destroy neurons. The large majority (75%+) of neural cells in a particular area of the brain are killed before any clinical symptoms of a chronic illness are noticed. A few of the many chronic illnesses that have been shown to be contributed to by long-term exposure excitatory amino acid damage include:
Multiple sclerosis (MS), ALS, memory loss, hormonal problems, hearing loss, epilepsy, Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease, hypoglycemia, AIDS dementia, brain lesions, and neuroendocrine disorders.

The risk to infants, children, pregnant women, the elderly, and persons with certain chronic health problems from excitotoxins are great. Even the Federation of American Societies For Experimental Biology (FASEB), which usually understates problems and mimics the FDA party-line, recently stated in a review that "it is prudent to avoid the use of dietary supplements of L-glutamic acid by pregnant women, infants, and children. The Existence of evidence of potential endocrine responses, i.e., elevated cortisol and prolactin, and differential responses between males and females, would also suggest a neuroendocrine link and that supplemental L-glutamic acid should be avoided by women of childbearing age and individuals with affective disorders."(4) Aspartic acid from aspartame has the same deleterious effects on the body as glutamic acid.

The exact mechanism of acute reactions to excess free glutamate and aspartate is currently being debated. As reported to the FDA, those reactions include (5)

Headaches/migraines, nausea, abdominal pains, fatigue (blocks sufficient glucose entry into brain), sleep problems, vision problems, anxiety attacks, depression, and asthma/chest tightness.

One common complaint of persons suffering from the effect of aspartame is memory loss. Ironically, in 1987, G.D. Searle, the manufacturer of aspartame, undertook a search for a drug to combat memory loss caused by excitatory amino acid damage. Blaylock is one of many scientists and physicians who are concerned about excitatory amino acid damage caused by ingestion of aspartame and MSG. A few of the many experts who have spoken out against the damage being caused by aspartate and glutamate include Adrienne Samuels, Ph.D., an experimental psychologist specializing in research design. Another is Olney, a professor in the department of psychiatry, School of Medicine, Washington University, a neuroscientist and researcher, and one of the world's foremost authorities on excitotoxins. (He informed Searle in 1971 that aspartic acid caused holes in the brain of mice.) Also included is Francis J. Waickman, M.D., a recipient of the Rinkel and Forman Awards, and Board certified in Pediatrics, Allergy, and Immunology.

Other concerned scientists include: John R. Hain, M.D., Board Certified Forensic Pathologist, and H.J. Roberts, M.D., FACP, FCCP, Diabetic Specialist, and selected by a national medical publication as "The Best Doctor in the US"
John Samuels is concerned, also. He compiled a list of scientific research sufficient to show the dangers of ingesting excess free glutamic and aspartic acid.

And there are many more who can be added to this long list.

PHENYLALANINE (50% OF ASPARTAME)

Phenylalanine is an amino acid normally found in the brain. Persons with the genetic disorder, phenylketonuria (PKU) cannot metabolize phenylalanine. This leads to dangerously high levels of phenylalanine in the brain (sometimes lethal). It has been shown that ingesting aspartame, especially along with carbohydrates can lead to excess levels of phenylalanine in the brain even in persons who do not have PKU. This is not just a theory, as many people who have eaten large amounts of aspartame over a long period of time and do not have PKU have been shown to have excessive levels of phenylalanine in the blood. Excessive levels of phenylalanine in the brain can cause the levels of seratonin in the brain to decrease, leading to emotional disorders such as depression. It was shown in human testing that phenylalanine levels of the blood were increased significantly in human subjects who chronically used aspartame.(6) Even a single use of aspartame raised the blood phenylalanine levels. In his testimony before the US Congress, Dr Louis J. Elsas showed that high blood phenylalanine can be concentrated in parts of the brain, and is especially dangerous for infants and fetuses. He also showed that phenylalanine is metabolized much more efficiently by rodents than by humans.(7)

One account of a case of extremely high phenylalanine levels caused by aspartame was recently published the the "Wednesday Journal" in an article entitled "An Aspartame Nightmare." John Cook began drinking 6 to 8 diet drinks every day. His symptoms started out as memory loss and frequent headaches. He began to crave more aspartame-sweetened drinks. His condition deteriorated so much that he experienced wide mood swings and violent rages. Even though he did not suffer from PKU, a blood test revealed a phenylalanine level of 80 mg/dl. He also showed abnormal brain function and brain damage. After he kicked his aspartame habit, his symptoms improved dramatically.(8)

As Blaylock points out in his book, early studies measuring phenylalanine buildup in the brain were flawed. Investigators who measured specific brain regions and not the average throughout the brain notice significant rises in phenylalanine levels. Specifically the hypothalamus, medulla oblongata, and corpus striatum areas of the brain had the largest increases in phenylalanine. Blaylock goes on to point out that excessive buildup of phenylalanine in the brain can cause schizophrenia or make one more susceptible to seizures.
Therefore, long-term, excessive use of aspartame may provided a boost to sales of seratonin re-uptake inhibitors such as Prozac and drugs to control schizophrenia and seizures.

METHANOL (This is WOOD ALCOHOL, i.e. POISON - 10% OF ASPARTAME)

Methanol/wood alcohol is a deadly poison. Some people may remember methanol as the poison that has caused some "skid row" alcoholics to end up blind or dead. Methanol is gradually released in the small intestine when the methyl group of aspartame encounter the enzyme chymotrypsin.
The absorption of methanol into the body is sped up considerably when free methanol is ingested. Free methanol is created from aspartame when it is heated to above 86 Fahrenheit (30 Centigrade). This would occur when aspartame-containing product is improperly stored or when it is heated (e.g., as part of a "food" product such as Jello).

Methanol breaks down into formic acid and formaldehyde in the body. Formaldehyde is a deadly neurotoxin. An EPA assessment of methanol states that methanol "is considered a cumulative poison due to the low rate of excretion once it is absorbed. In the body, methanol is oxidized to formaldehyde and formic acid; both of these metabolites are toxic." The recommend a limit of consumption of 7.8 mg/day. A one-liter (approx. 1 quart) aspartame-sweetened beverage contains about 56 mg of methanol. Heavy users of aspartame-containing products consume as much as 250 mg of methanol daily or 32 times the EPA limit.(9)

Symptoms from methanol poisoning include headaches, ear buzzing, dizziness, nausea, gastrointestinal disturbances, weakness, vertigo, chills, memory lapses, numbness and shooting pains in the extremities, behavioral disturbances, and neuritis. The most well known problems from methanol poisoning are vision problems including misty vision, progressive contraction of visual fields, blurring of vision, obscuration of vision, retinal damage, and blindness. Formaldehyde is a known carcinogen, causes retinal damage, interferes with DNA replication, causes birth defects.(10) Due to the lack of a couple of key enzymes, humans are many times more sensitive to the toxic effects of methanol than animals. Therefore, tests of aspartame or methanol on animals do not accurately reflect the danger for humans. As pointed out by Dr Woodrow C. Monte, Director of the Food Science and Nutrition Laboratory at Arizona State University, "There are no human or mammalian studies to evaluate the possible mutagenic, teratogenic, or carcinogenic effects of chronic administration of methyl alcohol."(11)

He was so concerned about the unresolved safety issues that he filed suit with the FDA requesting a hearing to address these issues. He asked the FDA to "slow down on this soft drink issue long enough to answer some of the important questions. It's not fair that you are leaving the full burden of proof on the few of us who are concerned and have such limited resources. You must remember that you are the American public's last defense. Once you allow usage (of aspartame) there is literally nothing I or my colleagues can do to reverse the course. Aspartame will then join saccharin, the sulfating agents, and God knows how many other questionable compounds enjoined to insult the human constitution with governmental approval."(10) Shortly thereafter, the Commissioner of the FDA, Arthur Hull Hayes, Jr., approved the use of aspartame in carbonated beverages, he then left for a position with G.D. Searle's Public Relations firm.(11)

It has been pointed out that some fruit juices and alcoholic beverages contain small amounts of methanol. It is important to remember, however, that methanol never appears alone. In every case, ethanol is present, usually in much higher amounts. Ethanol is an antidote for methanol toxicity in humans.(9) The troops of Desert Storm were "treated" to large amounts of aspartame-sweetened beverages which had been heated to over 86o F. in the Saudi Arabian sun. Many of them returned home with numerous disorders similar to what has been seen in persons who have been chemically poisoned by formaldehyde. The free methanol in the beverages may have been a contributing factor in these illnesses. Other breakdown products of aspartame such as DKP (discussed below) may also have been a factor.
In a 1993 act that can only be described as "unconscionable," the FDA approved aspartame as an ingredient in numerous food items that would always be heated to above 86°F (30°C).

DIKETOPIPERAZINE (DKP)

DKP is a by-product of aspartame metabolism. DKP has been implicated in the occurrence of brain tumors. Olney noticed that DKP, when nitrosated in the gut, produced a compound which was similar to N-nitrosourea, a powerful brain tumor causing chemical. Some authors have said that DKP is produced after aspartame ingestion. I am not sure if that is correct. It is definitely true that DKP is formed in liquid aspartame-containing products during prolonged storage.

G.D. Searle conducted animal experiments on the safety of DKP. The FDA found numerous experimental errors occurred, including "clerical errors, mixed-up animals, animals not getting drugs they were supposed to get, pathological specimens lost because of improper handling," and many other errors.(12) These sloppy laboratory procedures may explain why both the test and control animals had sixteen times more brain tumors than would be expected in experiments of this length.
In an ironic twist, shortly after these experimental errors were discovered, the FDA used guidelines recommended by G.D. Searle to develop the Industry-wide FDA standards for Good Laboratory Practices.(11)
DKP has also been implicated as a cause of uterine polyps and changes in blood cholesterol by FDA Toxicologist Dr Jacqueline Verrett in her testimony before the US Senate.(13)"

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WOW!! I better put on a helmet! J/K, great info I was just talking to my lil bro last night about Nutrition and items like this, he is taking a class at BU on this stuff, cant tell by the looks of us we think about healthy eating we are both the half of an offensive line.

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Man, it seems like everywhere you turn, there is crap in your food. Even the "natural" foods are pumped up with growth hormones and pesticides.

I am going to start growing my own food on the moon.

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I have known and preached this for years. Many lingering health problems that I had went away after I stopped drinking diet coke.

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It says it right on the label. Most products that have aspartame and Phen... say it right there on the packaging that these chemicals can be harmful to the body.

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It says it right on the label. Most products that have aspartame and Phen... say it right there on the packaging that these chemicals can be harmful to the body.
yeah, I remember when I was a kid and I read the side of the sugarless gum package. "this product contain sachrine, which causes cancer in lab animals"

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It says it right on the label. Most products that have aspartame and Phen... say it right there on the packaging that these chemicals can be harmful to the body.
Not really. The warning on the sugar less products is ONLY for Persons with the genetic disorder, phenylketonuria, since it's the methyl ester of phenylalanine and aspartic acid, people who cannot metabolize the amino acid phenylalanine (Pheynlketonurics) cannot use aspartame.

For regular people it's supposed to be safe.

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Wow, my dad worked at Monsanto, they have a factory in Manteno where they package Sweet N Low.

He used to come home every day after work and have the nutrisweet sugar all over his boots. The dog used to lick the sugar off his boots every day .

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Saccharin has been the subject of extensive scientific research. It is one of the most studied ingredients in the food supply. Although the totality of the available research indicates saccharin is safe for human consumption, there has been controversy over its safety. The basis for the controversy rests primarily on findings of bladder tumors in some male rats fed high doses of sodium saccharin. Considerable saccharin research, however, indicates safety at human levels of consumption. The average user of saccharin ingests less than one ounce of the sweetener each year.

In 1977, Congress passed a moratorium preventing an FDA-proposed saccharin ban. The moratorium has been extended seven times based on the scientific evidence, the counsel of qualified professionals, and the support of consumers. At a 1985 Senate hearing, then-FDA Commissioner Frank Young supported an extension of the moratorium, noting that FDA had less concern about saccharin than in 1977. The Commissioner added, "the actual risk, if any, of saccharin to humans still appears to be slight."

In 1991, the FDA formally withdrew its 1977 proposal to ban the use of saccharin. And, on December 21, 2000, then-President Clinton signed a bill that removes the warning label that had been required on saccharin-sweetened products in the U.S. since 1977. Government, scientists and industry are now all in agreement that saccharin is safe.

With all the research that I have done, I found out the saccharine has less side effects than aspartame, if might be safer, but NONE of the artificial sweeteners are really safe.
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Splenda, also known as sucralose, is artificial sweetener which is a chlorinated sucrose derivative.

Facts about this artificial chemical follows:

Pre-Approval Research
Pre-approval research showed that sucralose caused shrunken thymus glands (up to 40% shrinkage) and enlarged liver and kidneys. The manufacturer put forth two arguments in an attempt to claim that sucralose is not toxic:

The dose of sucralose in the experiments was high. However, for chemicals that do not have generations of safe use, the dosage tested must be adjusted for variations in potential toxicity within the human population and between humans and rodents. In order to this, toxicologists estimate a variation of effects in the human population of 10 times. In other words, one person may not have effects until a dose of 10 mg per kg of body weight (10 mg/kg) is reached, while another person may have chronic toxicity effects at 1 mg per kg of body weight (1 mg/kg). In addition, it is well known that many chemicals are much more toxic in humans than in rodents (or even monkeys). For example, the chemicals that the sweetener aspartame breaks down into vary from 5 to 50 times more toxic in humans than in rodents. Therefore, toxicologists estimate a further 10 times the dose for differences between human and rodent toxicity for a total of 100 times (10 * 10).

In order to estimate a potential safe dose in humans, one must divide the lowest dose in given to rodents that was seen to have any negative effects on their thymus glands, liver or kidneys by 100. That dose is then known as the maximum Tolerable Daily Intake (TDI) for lifetime use. Keep in mind that the TDI is just an estimate. Some chemicals are much more than 10 times more toxic in humans than in rodents (or will cause cancer in humans in low-dose, long-term exposure and do not cause cancer in rodents at all). A person ingesting the TDI for some chemical may find that it causes cancer or immune system or neurological problems after many years or decades of use. So, if the manufacturer claims that the dose was equivalent to 50 diet sodas, then the TDI would be one half (1/2) of a diet soda, and even that dose may or may not be safe.

The manufacturer claimed that the sucralose was unpleasant for the rodents to eat in large doses. They said that starvation caused the shruken thymus glands. From the New Scientist (23 Nov 1991, pg 13):

[Toxicologist Judith] Bellin reviewed studies on rats starved under experimental conditions, and concluded that their growth rate could be reduced by as much as a third without the thymus losing a significant amount of weight (less than 7 percent). The changes were much more marked in rats fed on sucralose. While the animals' growth rate was reduced by between 7 and 20 percent, their thymuses shrank by as much as 40 percent.

Recent Research

A possible problem with caecal enlargement and renal mineralization has been seen in post approval animal research.

Sucralose Breaks Down

Despite the manufacturer's mis-statements, sucralose does break down into small amounts of 1,6-dichlorofructose, a chemical that has not been adequately tested in humans.


Independent, Long-Term Human Research

None. Manufacturer's "100's of studies" (some of which show hazards) were clearly inadequate and do not demonstrate safety in long-term use.

Chlorinated Pesticides

The manufacturer claims that the chlorine added to sucralose is similar to the chlorine atom in the salt (NaCl) molecule. That is not the case. Sucralose may be more like ingesting tiny amounts of chlorinated pesticides, but we will never know without long-term, independent human research.

Conclusion

While it is unlikely that sucralose is as toxic as the poisoning people are experiencing from Monsanto's aspartame, it is clear from the hazards seen in pre-approval research and from its chemical structure that years or decades of use may contribute to serious chronic immunological or neurological disorders.

How it is Manufactured

Sucralose is produced by chlorinating sugar (sucrose). This involves chemically changing the structure of the sugar molecules by substituting three chlorine atoms for three hydroxyl groups.

History

Sucralose was discovered in 1976 by researchers working under the auspices of Tate & Lyle Ltd., a large British sugar refiner. In 1980, Tate & Lyle arranged with Johnson & Johnson, the world's largest health care company, to develop sucralose. Johnson & Johnson formed McNeil Speciality Products Company in 1980 to commercialize sucralose.

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I've always heard that there were concerns that Aspartame caused neurological damage.

Saccharine is a known carcinagen isn't it?

Don't know about Sucralose(Splenda)......hold on

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Research in animals has shown that sucralose can cause many problems in rats, mice, and rabbits, such as:


Shrunken thymus glands (up to 40% shrinkage)
Enlarged liver and kidneys.
Atrophy of lymph follicles in the spleen and thymus
Increased cecal weight
Reduced growth rate
Decreased red blood cell count
Hyperplasia of the pelvis
Extension of the pregnancy period
Aborted pregnancy
Decreased fetal body weights and placental weights
Diarrhea

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Here is my advice... if it growns on a tree, eat it... if it's made in a lab, avoid it... pretty simple.

I also like organic grown = no pesticides (chemicals).
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Here is my advice... if it growns on a tree, eat it... if it's made in a lab, avoid it... pretty simple.

I also like organic grown = no pesticides (chemicals).
Yeah, but it's damn expensive. The flavor difference in organic apples and broccoli from conventional is amazing.

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I'm have to check, but I'm very sure that Orbitz, Eclipse, Dentyne Ice and similar product DO NOT USE Aspartamine (nutrsweet). These newer "sugar free" gum products use Polyols...specifically Maltitol, Sorbitol and Mannitol. these sweeteners are made from Corn Syrup and are hydrogenated to make them "alchohol sugars". These products are being used in many of the new "Atkins Friendly" diet product and other "low Carb" cookies, chocolates and candies.

This product is not actually a flavoring like Spenda and nutrasweet, it's bakes and mixes similar to regular Sucrose or Dextrose, but because of the chemical structure, it is not metabolised.

How do I know this? My company is the worlds largest supplier of Maltitol (we hold the patent) and supplies a large quantity of sorbitol for Hershey and Pfizer.
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Don't know about Sucralose(Splenda)......hold on
I'm drinking coffee with Splenda in it now.
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Atrophy of lymph follicles in the spleen and thymus
You know, my spleen did look a little small today.
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Increased cecal weight
Is that why my jeans don't fit?
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Reduced growth rate
So THAT'S WHY I'm only 5'2...and that would explain the whole "No boobs" thing!
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Decreased red blood cell count
Wait...still counting....1,287...1,288
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Extension of the pregnancy period
Aborted pregnancy
So if I get knocked up, it will last a long time, only to be aborted?
Does this mean I don't have to take the pill anymore?
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Decreased fetal body weights and placental weights
I don't want fat kids anyway.
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Diarrhea
GOTTA LEAVE! WILL TYPE MORE LATER!!!
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I'm have to check, but I'm very sure that Orbitz, Eclipse, Dentyne Ice and similar product DO NOT USE Aspartamine (nutrsweet). These newer "sugar free" gum products use Polyols...specifically Maltitol, Sorbitol and Mannitol.
... Sorry Charlie,
Elipse, Dentine Ice, and Orbit gum contain Aspartame

Ingredients: Sorbitol, Maltitol, Gum Base, Mannitol, Artificial and Natural Flavoring; Less Than 2% of: Acacia, Acesulfame Potassium, Aspartame, BHT (To Maintain Freshness), Candelilla Wax, Soy Lecithin and Titanium Dioxide (Color). PHENYLKETONURICS: CONTAINS PHENYLALANINE.

In addition to these ingredients, Orbit gum uses Xylitol - another artificial sweetner

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Yes, nutrasweet contains all of the chemicals listed in that post. Bt het quantity of the actual chemical used is very minimal since it's 1000 times sweeter than sugar.

However Splenda is 1000 times sweeter than nautrasweet... so overall nutrasweet has become obsolete.
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This just in: It is reported that we are all gonna die. That's right! 10 out of 10 board certified physicians agree that we are going to bite the big one...

Researchers are investigating the strange relationship between death and bread. "All persons aged 0 to 100 who died in the last year regularly ate bread," says Dr. Slowass, a really cool chick who's also really smart (and not too bad looking ). "Now please buy my Harley."

Doctors advise abstaining from high-risk-of-death behaviors, which include consuming products containing pesticides, aspartame, Splenda, caffeine, and riding motorcycles.
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Yes, nutrasweet contains all of the chemicals listed in that post. Bt het quantity of the actual chemical used is very minimal since it's 1000 times sweeter than sugar.
So does that mean that you are willing to eat trace amounts of rat poison also? It won't kill you now, but you might have have some side effects and may die from in in 40 years

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How many people die every year from riding motorcycles?
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So does that mean that you are willing to eat trace amounts of rat poison also? It won't kill you now, but you might have have some side effects and may die from in in 40 years
the mental stress caused by worrying about eating trace amounts of rat poison, caffeine, nutrasweet, poop rollups... whatever, will probably cause more harm than eating the rat poison itself.

not to try and discredit any of your info, but we all have only a short time here on earth. enjoy it! worry about the consequences when you're old and crusty. we are all more likely to die in a motorcycle related accident than we are from eating too much yellow #4 anyway.
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Everything you eat or drink is gonna kill you. Its all deadly. I think I'm just going to go on a toothpaste and glacier water diet. I should be nice and healthy, right?

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So does that mean that you are willing to eat trace amounts of rat poison also? It won't kill you now, but you might have have some side effects and may die from in in 40 years

Don't get me started on strychnine in microdots

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How many people die every year from riding motorcycles?
A lot less then those that die form cancer and tumors... if I'm going to die, I rather die on a bike then from some nasty disease
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Everything you eat or drink is gonna kill you. Its all deadly. I
And what are you doing to change that? The government won’t do anything about these things if the population doesn’t care and speak up.

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