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Tendinitis in the Elbow

I have been bulking over the winter and going heavier. I am now at 233lbs up from 207lbs. But it hasn't been without a price. So my elbow has been hurting for the past couple of months. Last weekend when i was working arms my elbow was killing me during all tricep workouts but like an idiot i pushed through. Now I have a little fluid on my elbow. I have still been lifting this week with my elbow wrapped and going a little lighter. It seems all good and I haven't been stressing my elbow much. I will be skipping triceps this week as well.

My question is, does anyone know if this fluid on my elbow will just eventually get absorbed or do I need to get it drained?

And are there any negatives to delaying the getting drained process? I don't have an orthopedic surgeon at the moment.

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Have the same problem

Go to the doc and get a presecription for an anti-inflammatory. After a few days you should be fine, but you need to take some time out to let it heal properly, otherwise it will just keep coming back. Tendons don't heal like muscles.

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Go to the doc and get a presecription for an anti-inflammatory. After a few days you should be fine, but you need to take some time out to let it heal properly, otherwise it will just keep coming back. Tendons don't heal like muscles.

P.S. I used to think people with carpal tunnel syndrome were pussies...until I got tendinitis myself! Well...maybe I'm a pussy too.
How long did you have to take off? I figure as long as i don't concentrate on triceps for a while i should be good. Cause I don't feel the strain when i do chest back biceps or shoulders...and ofcourse no strain during legs.

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Also I have heard of an anti inflamatory called mobick (sp?) I heard that should do the work. Ibuprofen hasn't done a thing.

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You need to take time off, or you will just make it worse. It doesn't have to be drained to get better. Now I'm obviously not a doctor nor do I play one on TV, but I've gone through this before. Wait until the swelling goes down and all the pain goes away, then start your pressing movements again. This could be as long as a month. Bench press may not hurt while you're doing it, but it still puts a ton of stress on the elbows. Time off isn't counterproductive either, for bulking...sometimes a few weeks off is the best thing you can do.

What does your routine look like for triceps? They really don't need a ton of direct work to grow. They'll be taking a hit from all your compound pressing movements, such as military press or any of the bench press exercises. At most, you should only be doing 2 direct tricep exercises. French press and overhead tricep extensions are notorious for killing elbows. If you're going heavy on these exercises, I can see why your elbow hurts. For triceps, the only direct work I put on them is through close grip bench press, and they are always growing.
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how much is a "little" fluid?

if it turns out to be bursitis and not tendonitis, it could get pretty nasty without treatment. nasty as in a grapefruit sized ball of fluid hanging from your elbow.

I've struggled w/ elbow tendonitis and a bad rotator cuff in my right arm for years. when the pain flares up I just moderate the tricep and shoulder exercises like Jim said above. the normal chest exercises will work the other muscle groups enough that you won't see a backslide in size/strength.
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i think they call that jager-itus

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Yea my Dad had the same thing... he just went to the doc and they drained it, and gave him some pills and he was bright as rain a week later....
Not sure if you take time off if it'll just go away and not come back? I would imagine it would... but I don't really know, never had it. I know it's painful.... good luck!

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My usual remedy for over working out and screwing up a joint is about one month off from those workouts that involve that joint and pop some vioxx that I got before it was pulled from the market. Also try to find a work around for the motion that screwed it up in the first place. Skullcrushers are a real bitch on the elbows, I never do them anymore.

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If you do get it drained, this is my experience.

Allow 2-3 weeks to see if the fluid gets absorbed. If it does not, be sure the area is prepped properly. Betadine in circular motions from the prepped aspiration site outward. Then rubbing alcohol on the aspiration site. Once the aspiration begins, if they have to get another syringe, be sure they have it ready to go. If they remove the syringe w/ the needle still in your elbow, there will be an open airway into your body. This increases the risk of infection.

I only say all this because I was a bit impatient w/ fluid on my knee and had it aspirated. Well, the doc didn't quite use aseptic technique and I wound up in the hospital w/ a staph infection for 3 days and a pic line in my arm w/ a month of antibiotics.


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I had a similar condition, it was brusitis (sp?) imflammation of the bursa (sp?) I bought a tennis elbow wrap to relieve the pressure while I lifted it took care of it + I was using Vioxx
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how much is a "little" fluid?

if it turns out to be bursitis and not tendonitis, it could get pretty nasty without treatment. nasty as in a grapefruit sized ball of fluid hanging from your elbow.

I've struggled w/ elbow tendonitis and a bad rotator cuff in my right arm for years. when the pain flares up I just moderate the tricep and shoulder exercises like Jim said above. the normal chest exercises will work the other muscle groups enough that you won't see a backslide in size/strength.
actually the fluid has gone down and is almost completely gone. That is a huge relief. Yeah I am going lighter now and keeping the strain off of my elbow as much as possible.

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You need to take time off, or you will just make it worse. It doesn't have to be drained to get better. Now I'm obviously not a doctor nor do I play one on TV, but I've gone through this before. Wait until the swelling goes down and all the pain goes away, then start your pressing movements again. This could be as long as a month. Bench press may not hurt while you're doing it, but it still puts a ton of stress on the elbows. Time off isn't counterproductive either, for bulking...sometimes a few weeks off is the best thing you can do.

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basically i do arms on saturdays. tricep portion consisted of push downs, skull crushers (this was what did me in), and then either over the head extensions or kick backs.

as i noted above the skull crushers are what did me in. I stayed away from those today and i will continue to in the future. I will substitue in narrow bench. the others aren't too bad as long as i keep it controlled and i minimize the motion till the elbow gets to 100% again.

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i think they call that jager-itus
I kid you not it has hindered my jacking off performance as well. Thank god we were created with two hands. or i would have to get creative....

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If you do get it drained, this is my experience.

Allow 2-3 weeks to see if the fluid gets absorbed. If it does not, be sure the area is prepped properly. Betadine in circular motions from the prepped aspiration site outward. Then rubbing alcohol on the aspiration site. Once the aspiration begins, if they have to get another syringe, be sure they have it ready to go. If they remove the syringe w/ the needle still in your elbow, there will be an open airway into your body. This increases the risk of infection.

I only say all this because I was a bit impatient w/ fluid on my knee and had it aspirated. Well, the doc didn't quite use aseptic technique and I wound up in the hospital w/ a staph infection for 3 days and a pic line in my arm w/ a month of antibiotics.


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yeah i wanted to stay away from the draining option but the fluid is almost gone so i should be good to go. Thanks for the advice though!

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Just wanted to thank everyone who replied to this thread again. I appreciate the advice. I will try to implement all of it.....short of the vioxx ofcourse....


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Were you doing skull crushers with dumbbells or a bar? The movement is a bit more natural with dumbbells because you can keep your palms facing in, and it takes a bit of the stress off the elbows.
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Were you doing skull crushers with dumbbells or a bar? The movement is a bit more natural with dumbbells because you can keep your palms facing in, and it takes a bit of the stress off the elbows.
it was will the bent curl bar. i will try with the dumbells if my elbow gets better. Thanks.

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