Originally Posted by norton
Muscle milk is good, but to me FAT IS FAT. I usually drink it right after the workout or first thing in the morning. I also use NitroTech, this combo does it for me plus I use:
-ON Aminos 2222
-Chromium Picolonate (SP)
-Mulit-Enzymes with high protein meals
I want to get on some hydroxycut hardcore. BIGGy your thoughts???? or should i get some cl. I know it is very comparable to Lipo 6.
Again my rule of thumb for bogus vs legit supplements comes into play. If you go search for Muscle Milk's nutritional lable it's very poorly written and mostly featers ingredients that they made up of other basic ingredients and gave a kick ass name to. Muscletech is also guilty of this, however if you check the label, they are a lot more clear about what's in their...so they're not as full of shit.
Let's be real about fat burners. As far as I'm concerned there's only 2 fat burners that you can buy without a presciption. A fat metabolizer such as L-carnitine (non-stimulant amino acid), or a thermogenic product; aka caffeine...make you go bouncy bouncy. The word thermogenic or even cooler sounding 'THERMOGENESIS
are generally used and I'll tell you why. When I sell you a cup of coffee from a mom and pop diner for 70cents a day (which you could help sponsor a child), what do you and I call it? A cup of coffee. Now when you go to Starbucks and you get virtually the same shit coffee but with lot's more cream and sugar, then proceed to pay $5 or some other obscene amount for it then do you call it 'a cup of coffee'? No. We call it a Venti white chocolate machiato with caramel...or something like that. So if I sell you normal caffeine pills for a normal price then I'll call them that. But when I want to charge you more than $10 for a bottle of caffeine then I'm going to stick a tiny amount of ingredients which have CONTROVERSIAL CLAIMS AND CONFLICTING STUDIES (key part) in the mix. Then I'll call the product something like Hydroxycut. If I really wanna shove it in your rear I'll slap a label on that says one of the following: Extreme, Hardcore, MEGA, Thermogenic, Ultra, Fuel, Growth-promoting, Sterol, or my favorite...ANABOLIC!!!
Hydroxycut works...period. Guess I coulda started with that. But, you can find the same caffeine pills for a few bucks, and that's really what they are. The additional things in there are questionable for starters. I've used Yohimbe, Inositol, etc...can't say I noticed anything, however each one is different. The best combos had ephedrine...if ya really wanna boost your metabolism. Problem is that stupid people can go out, buy it, OD 'n die, then cause a product to be banned which is not really the problem...but perhaps that high school wrestler that took a whole bottle in a day was just a moron.
My suggestion. Either do more cardio and save on the pills, maybe take something like l-carnitine (empty stomach, 30 mins or so before a workout), or just go load up on some cheapo caffeine pills which will give you pretty much the same results as any 'mainstream thermogenic ultra fat burning fuel thing'.