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Dieting down/protein drinks

Have finished my 2 month bulking phase 1 month ago. Pretty good results. 149 to 160lbs. Of course during that phase I also put on some fat around the midsection. During the 2 months I ate like an animal and drank 2 protein drinks a day (700 cals), one for breakfast and one right after working out and about 30min. before dinner. It all obviously worked since I put on some good muscle gains but now it's time to strip away some of the fat that came along with it.
My question is, should I cut the protein drink back to only one per day after workouts? After looking at the label again I noticed that the drinks are pretty damn high in sat. fats. one serving is 40-45% of the daily limit. So 2 of those almost gives me 100% of what I need not even figuring in regular food! Of course I am also creeping in the rest of the diet, lots of lean cusuine frozen dinners for when I totally sick of chicken breast. Also not eating after 6:30pm with the exception of some fruit. Not looking to get ripped or six pack abs, that's not in my genetics plus I don't want to be on that strict of a diet. Just looking ot get rid of some mid section fat, I'll be happy with a 4 pack. So should I squash the morning shake and just have some fruit or granola bar? Almost forgot, my usual workout schedule is 4 days per week.

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First step is to figure out how many calories a day you are consuming and cut out the lean cusuine meals. They are high in sodium and will make you retain more water. Also don't eat to much fruit, it is high in sugar. The first two things I tell my clients to do is cut out the sodium and the sugar in their diets and they will see a positive change.
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First step is to figure out how many calories a day you are consuming and cut out the lean cusuine meals. They are high in sodium and will make you retain more water. Also don't eat to much fruit, it is high in sugar. The first two things I tell my clients to do is cut out the sodium and the sugar in their diets and they will see a positive change.

Thanks for the tips, the salt thing is a killer since almost everything has it. In the past what worked well for me was eating normally but decreasing the size as the day goes on. Have a good sized breakfast, fair sized lunch and then small dinner before 6. I was like a gremilin, no eating at night. But the way I see it is that it's easier to be hungry while your sleeping than while your awake, not to mention if you eat late you never burn any of it since your sleeping.
So do you say to skip the morning shake or not? I'll have to cut down the frozen "lean" dinners but rice and chicken get old real quick.

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I would definalty keep the shakes going, maybe switch to a lower calorie shake. most of those serve as meal replacements so they will help you stimulae you mitabolism, which will keep you burining fat through out the day
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LOL, I dunk my chocolate chip cookies in my protien shake!
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Cutting out sodium, that I can handle.

But what am I supposed to replace ice cream with if I cut out sugar!! Kinda defeats the purpose of life. Hell, no ice cream, no sex.... next thing you'll say no riding!

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LOL, I dunk my chocolate chip cookies in my protien shake!

I remember when I was a 20 and a hard gainer. I would make my weightgain shakes with ice cream and chocolate sauce and banana's. IT was a heart attack in a blender!!! Something like 800+ cals. Still didn't put a pound on me, now I have the exact opposite problem

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I'll make this one short and sweet, save the rant You wanna lose fat, I whole-heartedly promise that if you fall within the 95% of normal people...you will lose muscle as well in the process. Very simple. Body likes to keep things proportional. A fat you will naturally be stronger than a weak you. If you want to stay cut and keep the muscle, then it may actually take more work in the gym to keep it that way. When we gain muscle at first, we shock our body...it starts working on creating additional blood flow and so on for new tissue. It just takes more time for the fat to build up.

Oh and please, don't ever quote an RDA percentage again...it's horseshit. Use the ODA (optimal daily allowance), which has been studied and compiled more towards what an active person needs. Check the chart here (lazy, first one googled up):

http://www.fibromyalgiacfsstore.com/rdaoda.html

The RDA came towards the end of the great depression. If you search hard enough, you'll see that a good part of the motivation behind it was because folks were simply malnutritioned during those times. The RDA established the MINIMUMS that an INACTIVE person needed to not show deficiency of that particular nutrient. Basically the RDA means to feed starving people at least 100% of this so their gums don't bleed or whatever else. Now dig a little more (ok when I was a nutritionist this is what I did)...and you'll see that some percentages have actually dropped in years past. Meaning if 100mg of vitamin C would get you 100%, then it became 60mg to get that 100%. Why? If you make some kick ass tasting cereal that's nothing more than a brown spot in terms of nutrition, but you'd like to tell people that you have 100% of this or that mineral...well, much easier to hit that 100% if the FDA drops it. Not that you'd go out and contribute to the FDA to buy off lower percentages to make your unhealthy/kick ass tasting product any better...I'm just sayin'
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Check out mypyramid.org this may help.
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Learn something new here everyday, I never heard the diff between RDA and ODA.

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