Originally Posted by Vcook
it does more than just "suck tons of water into your cells". as in everything, your personal mileage will vary!!
Yes it does more than suck water in. Pulling in the water is sort of a side effect of the creatine. You can also dehydrate yourself on this stuff too...as I've said many times. Putting a dry powder into the body needs to be countered with extra water. Creatine as I explained in a rant before, changes the actual muscular contractions (actin/myosin). Anyway it's not a creatine rant.
Our main focus is this new creatine...CEM3 or whatever cool name they have lined up for it. Now rule #1 as we all know. The more hyped and kick ass the label is with claims that it will make you as huge as vcook (nah, ok kidding on the one), the product is most likely bullshit. When we go to a job interview and we know what we're doing, then that easily comes through and we can talk in specifics...much like a good brand label would. If we don't know jack, then we say that "we're great and we can do the job gooder". So by initially looking at the label we have a hint of bullshit.
Here's the part where vcook is partially wrong. The creatine in cell mass is creatine monohydrate. But in addition to that they attached an ester. Some of you might have heard of Ester-C...supposed to help vitamin c absorb better. Well...the theory behind what they do is correct. I'm trully hazy on ester, so someone verify and correct me because I'm not researching a college paper here. But in short, ester is found in fat tissues of humans and animals. When we put shit into our bodies that has some sort of impact on our cells it's called ligand binding. There are several different ways which whatever supplement we use can get into or work with the cell...most of which I don't recall because it's been a looong time since I took my test. But, the way creatine works I believe is through a process which is called either 'passive permeation' or 'passive absorbtion'...this is a very basic process which requires the least amount of work for the cell in simply letting product X diffuse in, usually by way of lipids (I hope we all know what lipids are). For those that are confused, here's where it all ties back...hell maybe you got it already. Ester is found in lipids (ester helps absorbtion into lipids)...lipids are what help diffuse creatine into the muscle (Einhorn is Finkle! and Finkle is Einhorn!). Ergo, in theory, adding ester to creatine will help it absorb. See creatine doesn't absorb all that well...that's part of the reason why the creatine you take today will not be useful until tomorrow or the day after. We actually do make our own as well, but different topic. Creatine doesn't absorb well because of the method by which it is absorbed (passive). This lack of absorbtion is what causes that muscle bloating I've seen mentioned here a few times as well. So this should in theory...reduce some of the water retention we experience.
Now we know why the focus has been on products that help creatine absorb over the last X years. It's like you have a kick ass engine in a bike...but it has shitty tires...so you focus on the tires (delivery/absorbtion method) even though we all like more powerful engines
So that's our theory...but it's just a theory. So according to it, I should say that 'yes, this shit is better'. But my instinct tells me that it's crap. Again, if it really really worked, then I would have heard about it from every nutritional magazine (and those bodybuilding mags are not even close to being considered nutritional info), and it would most likely be made by many different brands, some of which I'd hope to actually hear of. No doubt there's a study out there that proves that it works. There's also a study out there that shows that Boron is proven to raise testosterone levels. And no doubt there's a study out there that shows it doesn't work. I haven't looked for any studies yet and who they are by. Usually you have to dig a lot to find out who really initiated the study. Because a company like EAS will release a product and one of it's subsidiaries-subsidiaries friends cousins moms dog will start the study...but in reality it's being run by EAS. Therefore a company that seems to have no financial interest in EAS actually does, and taints the results.
I am fairly confident that this product will work though. It's still using creatine monohydrate which works, period, end of story. Will it work better is the real question...I'm skeptical for now until I hear otherwise from a source I trust.