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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 12-21-2006, 11:22 AM Thread Starter
 
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Gym rats, do you correct peoples form?

In the other thread I posted that I see form sometimes that makes me almost feel the joint pain when I watch the person doing it. Be it walking lunges where the knee crosses will over the toes, open handed bench press, or poor squats. So does anyone here correct a persons form when they see this or offer any advice? Sometimes when you're in the lift, you really can't tell as much as when you're watching from the side. I generally don't say anything unless the guy happens to be lifting right near me, looks like he could really hurt himself, and appears new. Some 50 something wearing his cool 90's style gym pants ain't gonna care what anyone has to say. But I'm generally the type to simply stare and not say anything. More than happy to help if someone asks, or if I'm spotting someone I'll say something...but not just walk up randomly even if they're messing up a good amount.
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I don't normally say anything, but I would welcome someone pointing out my bad form.
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I don't normally say anything, but I would welcome someone pointing out my bad form.
Same thing here.
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hell no I'm not saying anything. I could spend half my time in the gym correcting form, and as far as I can tell just about zero of those people want my input.

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I wouldn't bother. That's like picking out a guy in a parking lot you don't know, and then telling him how much his car sucks.
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Depends who it is...High School tough guys lifting 3 times too much weight in a completely incorrect way, F no...I laugh

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I always arch my back as much as possible when I bench.

No I don't unless the person looks lost.

It is like trying to tell someone how to ride unless they are willing to learn it is best to keep mouth closed.

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Yea but it's not even about the guy having a crappy car or learning how to ride. I mean if the guys is doing bad form to the point that each rep is very highly and most likely causing some amount of stress or damage. If a guy is just cheating or doing some pointless exercise then whatever. I'm curious if you can see that he not only has a shitty car, but that one of the tires is flat.
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Its a sensitive subject. If you think the person would hurt themselves if they continue to use the bad form, you should say something. Of course it is a touchy subject and you don't want to come across as gay. If you carefully offer constructive input and choose your words carefully that person might be receptive.

I usually lead by example. Today for example, a guy was doing lateral pulldowns. However when he would pull the weight down, he would use his whole body forcing him to curve his back and lean way the fuck backwards. I asked him if I could jump in and he said yes. I kept the weight he had but I had perfect form, no movement, with my back straight, pulling the weight straight down to my chest. His form improved after seeing my form.

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correcting someone else's form can be a touchy subject.... i worked as a trainer for 8 yrs and people wouldn't want to hear from me, let alone another member. best approach is to ask one question: what are you trying to work with that exercise? they may be doing the exercise right for their specific intention and then you will look like the ass trying to fix what ain't broken, so be sure to know what you are talking about and not just regurgitating what mens health said in the last issue.

if their answer doesn't fit with what they are doing a simple, "can i show you a better way to hit (enter muscle group) a little better" works wonders. but 99% of the time just myob.
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Where do some of these people get it from? I swear I always see the new people with their free trainer for the day doing things the wrong way. The trainer is not even paying attention...

It's not 100% of the time but quite a bit... People on machines doing 100 reps with no weight that don't even stand up to let you work in between reps really piss me off.




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There's an old saying: don't offer unsolicited advice.

That being said, the only time I would comment would be if I were to be working in at the same bench/station and during the course of the workout we got to talking about workout-related items; chances are the conversation would naturally turn to a "form" item.

Also, if I might borrow a line from "Jepoardy", if you phrase it in the form of a question, in the sense of comparing "workout notes", you could get his explanation for his form, and say, "oh, because I was taught by a Blackhawks trainer that..."

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I only help if it's a hot chick or if it's someone who looks lost and is doing something totally wrong to the point they may hurt themselves.

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I don't waste my time, I just focus my energy/time on my own workout at hand. If I am working out with someone, I will point it out, but I won't go out of my way in doing so.
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Eh yeah, I'm one of the point and snicker type of guys too..

And I swear to God, Xsport, while it's a great gym to be at, their trainers are quite possibly the worst I've seen ever.

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Depends who it is...High School tough guys lifting 3 times too much weight in a completely incorrect way, F no...I laugh

But younger kids who just don't know yet, yeah, I'll help them out.

Wait, would that be me?

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I wish someone would help me with my form I screwed up my shoulder the other day doing side lateral raises. My shoulders just crack and pop doing that motion whether I am holding weights or not.

I'm going to switch to a military press I think since that will work the same muscles and doesn't hurt.
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Focus on big compound movements like squat, deadlift, bench, shoulder press, various rows and pulldowns. Dumb isolation stuff like side raises and tricep kickbacks aren't going to do much of anything for you.
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I wish someone would help me with my form I screwed up my shoulder the other day doing side lateral raises. My shoulders just crack and pop doing that motion whether I am holding weights or not.

I'm going to switch to a military press I think since that will work the same muscles and doesn't hurt.
Actually, I've been hearing that anything that's pushing over the head is pretty bad for your shoulders. Messes with the tendons supposedly. Doesn't mean that I stopped dumb bell shoulder presses though =P

Though my friend that plays football for ISU did say that they took out anything that's over the head out of their program now..
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It's a whole different dynamic when you're a female. Males feel more comfortable giving me "unsolicited advice" on my lifting and do so all the time at the gym because they know I'm not gonna give them macho-attitude. A lot of the advice has been good, though, but I know they'd NEVER do that to a guy. The trainers do it often too, and I appreciate it because I'm not paying them and I appreciate that they'll help me.

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Dumb isolation stuff like side raises and tricep kickbacks aren't going to do much of anything for you.
Then why do you have me doing these?

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That's exactly the excercise I hurt myself on. I had been doing them for about 7 weeks and had noticed the gains. It was easier to hold a compound bow steady while aiming, haha
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In the other thread I posted that I see form sometimes that makes me almost feel the joint pain when I watch the person doing it. Be it walking lunges where the knee crosses will over the toes, open handed bench press, or poor squats. So does anyone here correct a persons form when they see this or offer any advice? Sometimes when you're in the lift, you really can't tell as much as when you're watching from the side. I generally don't say anything unless the guy happens to be lifting right near me, looks like he could really hurt himself, and appears new. Some 50 something wearing his cool 90's style gym pants ain't gonna care what anyone has to say. But I'm generally the type to simply stare and not say anything. More than happy to help if someone asks, or if I'm spotting someone I'll say something...but not just walk up randomly even if they're messing up a good amount.
I've had multiple people come up to me in the gym and try to correct my form on squatting and dead lifts. I act as if I care then laugh on the inside when they walk away because the sad fact is I know more then them For example someone told me going below parallel is bad for your knees in squats, when in reality its actually easier on your knees, stopping AT parallel is what fucks your knees up.

I don't know everything, if I did I wouldn't have an Oly. Lifting coach But I would def. tell someone if their form is off if their around my age and what their doing is dangerous, but def. not gonna tell someone that squatting above parallel with 3 plates on each side going down about 4 inches is pointless since they won't believe me.

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