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post #1 of 32 (permalink) Old 03-02-2007, 12:22 AM Thread Starter
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So I started going to the gym again the first week in December after 2 years working two jobs and getting sporadic workouts in here and there with my home gym equipment. I spent the first four weeks rebuilding a solid base of strength and cardio. Then I started doing split routines and ramping the weights up along with the intensity. Things were going great and I was making strength and size gains pretty rapidly. Then the real pain started.

During a heavy chest workout I felt a stabbing pain in my right shoulder. Its an AC joint strain, where your collarbone is joined to a bone in your shoulder called the acromion process. As I look back, I think I may have weakened it during my crash at the track last year when I hit the pavement and barrel-rolled. Anyway, I took a break from excercises that irritate it and have since resumed as much as I can even though I still feel limited because the site of the injury gets very sore if I try to jack up the intensity.

Now comes pain site number two. During a heavy overhead tricep exercise, I felt a sharp straining pain just above my left elbow. I was probably compensating for right-side weakness caused by my right shoulder. It caused some inflammation which has now become tendonitis. Even worse is the injury has been affecting the ulnar nerve. I've been dealing with constant radiating "funny bone" pain causing numbness in my pinky and ring finger for the past two weeks. Fucking Sucks! No fun waking up feeling like someone just wacked your elbow with a hammer.

I've been receiving physical therapy treatments to reduce the inflammation and pain, constantly icing, popping ibuprofen, altering my workouts or omitting certain exercises altogether with only temporary relief. I did some research on the bodybuilding, powerlifting, and fitness boards about joint health supplements and people are raving about a supplement by Universal Nutrition called Animal Flex. I ordered some to see if it would help. Anyone else taking some kind of Glucosamine/Chondritin supplement?

Sorry about the long post... kinda frustrated.

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I have started doing a lot of light, high rep stuff with free motion/cable machines. They are great for fluid, full body motion that let my joints move smoothly.

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Guess I should've used better wording like, "Joints don't hold up like they used to when I was 20."

Just frustrated cuz my strength is there and I'm not used to being held back.

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Nolan your still a kid! Now Butch.....he's older than dirty! I'm getting there. I started getting back into working out, everyday...heavy one day, light the next day. I think maybe you went back at it to aggressive....should of ramped up your routine.....but I know squat

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Nolan, I am a whopping 33 yrs old and my joint are screwed up too when lifting heavy. Bitch of it is that I never even played sports as a kid. I guess everyones frame and connective tissue is different. Would suggest just going a bit lighter and not doing the exercises that put you in pain. For example if free flat bench gets the shoulder hurting start using a Smith machine or other machine to do that exercise for a few months. I found out the hard way many times that you can't win a fight against your body, gotta work with and around it. I also have a bad shoulder and elbow, but they only give me problems when lifting really heavy weight so I don't. I challenge myself but I don't go balls out often. Tons of Advil and rest always helps a bit. Best wonder drug I ever had for bad joints was Vioxx but they pulled that because old folks with heart conditions were having heart attacks while popping the pills like m&m's.

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Isn't/wasn't Kim a Nurse? Can't she help you with picking out a supplement that would help you out?

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Anyone else taking some kind of Glucosamine/Chondritin supplement?
I take it. the problem is, it's a long term kind of thing, so the effects aren't always clear.
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1 month isn't enough time to "ramp up". I've done that too often and been sorry. Connective tissue can't be rushed and simply isn't as strong when you get older... At least that is my excuse, what is a young buck like you doing playing that card?

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Gettin old sucks. I'm actually in the same situation Nolan. I started lifting again back at the beginning of the year. Now that the poundages are increasing, I can definitely feel the joints aren't where they were back in the day. I've also got an AC issue, (my collarbone isn't attached to the Acromion) but fortunately it doesn't bother me too much.

Most of the guys I know that are lifting heavy and been doing it awhile swear by the glucosamine and chondroitin stack. I've ordered some up, but like Redduck said, the consensus is that it isn't an immediate improvement thing.

Also make sure you're drinking plenty of water. Even slight dehydration effects how well your joints are lubricated. Most people won't notice slight dehydration either, because symptoms aren't obvious. Easiest way to know is clear pee. If it ain't clear, drink more water.

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you should be drinking upwards of a gallon of water while doing an hour work out.



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You're old when you get a discount at the local theater. Sorry for your pain bro.

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Drinking water all the time is better, rather than loading up all at once. Your body learns to keep more water in it if you drink it often. If you drink it all at one time, you'll just pee a lot and feel bloated. I have heard that it's great for your joints if you have plenty of water in your system. Keeps all the supporting tissue plump and kind of takes out the slack in the joints. Keeps the rubber bands tight. You see people with those bands on their knees? Those are just to keep tension on the tendons, to reduce the slack. Having that slack is kind of like wearing your seatbelt or helmet too loose. Too much banging around occurs.
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I do slack in the hydrating department. I'll work on it.

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I feel your pain. I now have a full tear in my TFCC from hockey and will probably have to have surgery in a month or so.
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I'm a pediatric nurse and kids generally don't have joint problems, so I'm no help recommending supplements. And he just needs to suck it up and quit his crying

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I'm a pediatric nurse and kids generally don't have joint problems, so I'm no help recommending supplements. And he just needs to suck it up and quit his crying
but you still have one of those nurses outfits right? cause I know what will get the man's mind off his joint issues, and so do you!! It's doctor time.

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Nolan I have had nagging paine in my left shoulder,only from benching and hitting the speed bag,I know the frustration I too was getting very nice gaines in Jan. the dr. said he think it might be bersitis so I had to lay off the bench Ib800 mg
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I'm a pediatric nurse and kids generally don't have joint problems, so I'm no help recommending supplements. And he just needs to suck it up and quit his crying
+1!! Nolan, quite crying! You're not old yet.

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Update:

Shoulder is feeling much better. I've been taking Universal Nutrition's Animal Flex supplement for joint health for the past 10 days. (also taking 4 other supplement paks by them)

Was able to complete the following flat bench workout as part of my back/chest split routine tonight pretty much pain free:
135 15 reps
165 15 reps
185 12 reps
225 10 reps
275 8 reps
315 6 reps

Elbow is still sore at the "funny bone" but only bothers me with close grip tricep exercises (especially overhead) and heavy weight.

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