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How do you handle stress?

Stress is slowly killing me It drains all my energies. I use to handle stress by "self-medicating" with alcohol, which lead to all kinds of difficulties in my personal life So I gave that up and started working out....running 3 miles a day, hitting the heavy bag, light weights and eating healthy. That seemed to be working well...then about 18 months ago, I started having "reactions" to something, my left eye on my infamous rain ride to Canada swelled almost shut. I thought it was a blocked tear duct, 3 days later it went away and I didn't think anything of it. Last June when I was leaving for for West Virginia and Deals Gap, I had a major "reaction", I was positive it was an allergeric reaction to something I had eaten, I was itchy all over, difficult breathing, and the left lower portion of my face was swollen like a balloon. It freaked out both MSL217 and Jammin, I downed 2 beneadryl caps and popped some Aleve crammed my helmet on and rode about 500 miles in about 9 hours. When I got to West Virginia, I basically rested for a day, popping beneadryl every 4 hours and in a couple of days I was fine. Again I suspected food allergies, but nothing made sense, I wasn't eating anything out of the ordinary, I don't eat alot of processed foods, and have always eaten plenty of fresh veggies and fruits, I thought it was a new pesticide or preservative they were using on fruits and veggies, so I cut down on the amount I was eating and making sure I was cleaning the stuff properly. I also tried narrowing down what was causing the "reactions" but nothing made sense, stuff that I thought was the problem, like fresh corn and strawberries didn't cause the reactions under "test conditions". My reactions seem to "go away" when I lightened my working out regime. Then the "reactions" seem go away, sure I gained back some weight, but my face stopped balloon up. I had no reactions for a couple months, then projects starting sucking the life out of me, and I was unhappy with my weight gain, I started working out in earnest again....then I started having reactions again, mainly my eyes swelling up. The "reactions" seem to present themselves when I'm internalizing stress, working out now seems to "hurt" me more than ever, even with new runners and running on the machine, the balls of my feet hurt So I'm almost positive all my health problems are stressed related. I have no idea where to go from here and looking for some thoughts.

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Not being able to workout sucks. I think you need a motorcycle trip out west. You seemed okay then.

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It always amazes me how stress effect the body. Causes headaches, migraines, swelling, vomiting, heart attacks, etc.

I don't know if just changing activities is going to reduce stress. It may relieve it, but it will be right back when the situation changes. Its like drinking, every thing is all good while you have a buzz, but you can't maintain a buzz forever.

Rick, I don't like the idea of seeing a counsler, but in some cases, its probably the best thing.

I myself, use a priority approach. I try to deal with only the big stuff, causing aggravation. Also I turn to my wife, and let her handle what she can, which is a huge help. I guess what I'm trying to say is ask for help from others, to releive as many tasks as possible. Understand these tasks won't be done the way you would do them, but at least they are taken care of.

Deal with the root of the problem.

If this continues, please seek professional help. We've never met, but I do enjoy having you around.

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I don't know Rick. From my experience you have to find your own way of dealing with the stress in your life, and if that doesn't work, maybe make the decision to leave the stressful environment. The worse stress I had was in college, Math and Comp Sci put many gray hairs on my head and gave me a mean spasmatic left eye twitch throughout college. What worked for me then was knowing I only had a few more years to deal with that environment. Months after leaving school, I have never had an eye twitch again. Good luck, and I hope you find something that works.

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Not being able to workout sucks. I think you need a motorcycle trip out west. You seemed okay then.
I was okay then...I started off paranoid that I would have issues, but once we left my places the world was right I can't wait for the CO/UT trip

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It always amazes me how stress effect the body. Causes headaches, migraines, swelling, vomiting, heart attacks, etc.

I don't know if just changing activities is going to reduce stress. It may relieve it, but it will be right back when the situation changes. Its like drinking, every thing is all good while you have a buzz, but you can't maintain a buzz forever.

Rick, I don't like the idea of seeing a counsler, but in some cases, its probably the best thing.

I myself, use a priority approach. I try to deal with only the big stuff, causing aggravation. Also I turn to my wife, and let her handle what she can, which is a huge help. I guess what I'm trying to say is ask for help from others, to releive as many tasks as possible. Understand these tasks won't be done the way you would do them, but at least they are taken care of.

Deal with the root of the problem.

If this continues, please seek professional help. We've never met, but I do enjoy having you around.


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Ken I was dreading that someone would suggest professional help
Like I said, I don't like the idea, but sometimes it the only right choice. Sorry.

Really though look for ways of unloading tasks. Accept help from others. If you delegate people in the work place, have some of your trusted employees take care of some stuff, to lighten the load.

I can see this as a problem to those who micro manage everything.

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Ken I was dreading that someone would suggest professional help
Maybe a visit to Dr. Daniels, Dr. Walker, or Dr. Beam?

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Maybe a visit to Dr. Daniels, Dr. Walker, or Dr. Beam?

I hear they work wonders!
I have been thinking of that!

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Not to point out the obvious, but have you seen a doctor for a full physical? Or an allergist for testing?

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get the physical stuff checked out by a doctor.

as for stress, just let it go. Get a massage, rub one out, take a nap. Then remember that "life is very short, and there's no time for fussing and fighting my friend".

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You're probably not going to like this, but maybe it's time to tour around the world on that Duc full time. If you're at a place where you can do it, ditch the 9-5! (or 7 - 7 as the case may be).

Another thing to consider -- a lot of anxiety has a biochemical component. I doubt you'll like this idea, but speaking from personal experience, all of my best friends that I've known for years have sought help for their "firecracker" behaviors and have really benefited from VERY LOW doses of Zolof or something similar. I know there are a lot of stereotypes or hard-headed principles against stuff like this (I sure used to have them) but seeing how they've freed so many of my friends from the struggles they've had in just dealing with stress and the improvements in their marriages and relationships with their family and friends (WITHOUT changing their personalities), I have a new attitude about helping people in this way. My mind has really been opened. We know so much more about anxiety and depression than we did just 5 years ago, it's amazing. What else is profound is the very same quirky-weirdness that drew me to my friends (as well as you) is still there -- only the suffering is substantially abated.

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I am on the train to killing someone as well at this point. The Stress I am dealing with at work is getting to the unbearable point, and unfortunately I am the only one who can deal with these problems as anything that resembles a co-worker has been laid off in the last few years. I am plagued with headaches, my mood is foul, I have muscle spasms in my upper back, haven't had a good nights sleep in a very long time, haven't been on a vacation since 2005 and am sooo damn angry at all times I want to smack the shit out of someone. Yet I keep such a mild mannered demeanor on the outside.

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+ 1 to Kim. Rick you need to seek the help of a professional (M.D.) in the medical field. In my humble opinion none of the facts that you have presented here point to stress as the root cause of your issues, but then again I am not an M.D.
As far as the suggestion of a mental heath professional's advice being "dreaded" on your part, suck it up and swallow your pride. Anybody that suggests that the help of a mental health professional as not being a prudent course of action is ignorant of the facts; don't fall prey to this. Don't get me wrong, I understand that there is still a social stigma associated with seaking out this type of help, but recognize the root cause of said stigma for what it is.
You have a good amount of personal observation acquired at this point that you have to make sure that you pass on to the M.D. should you choose to seek one out. MAKE SURE YOU RELAY THIS to him or her in it's entirety; DO NOT LET THEM gloss over you relaying this to them; if they do, then seek the help of another.
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Some good advice here...

WOuld also inquire about your caffine / stimulant intake, too much is obviously not good.



How do you sleep ? Quantity / Quality ?

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Or just do like I do, sever all your personal relationships and become a recluse, then drive around mumbling or yelling to yourself till you think your going to go nuts. Occasionally blow up on some nameless clerk in a store till your bloodpressure gets so high your vision go's blurry. Oh and then break something.

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Thanks for putting out in the open.

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I've seen it several times when people blamed stress / other stuff on a purely physiological problem. And it can even be that it is easy to get rid of. I would talk to a physician, not a psychiatrist.

As far as the stress goes - it depends. Everyone finds something for himself/herself. Personally, I find that being around calm and happy people that are never affected by stress helps a lot. Copy what they do, something will click.

Also, from my personal experience, yoga can make a whole lot of difference - its purpose is to drive stress away. It is also a great substitute for exercise.

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All things are good suggestions and as pointed out: You'll have to try different things to find what works for you.

On a personal level:

Eat properly, sleep properly and be willing to 'let go' of things you are worried about but can't honestly fix or deal with. Don't view the last part as a 'defeat' or a capitulation, look at it as wisdom. Why worry about something that's happening in a month now? You'll give yourself 30 days of stress and it will transpire on the day whether you worry about it each and every day or not.

On another level, carve out time FOR YOU on a regular basis. Again, this requires letting go of the handle bars of the stressful ride of life and telling yourself it's OK to be GOOD TO YOU for a while. Some people like to 'beat themselves up' in life and not allow themselves fine moments; for whatever reason denying themselves as if they've not earned that right or have a sense of guilt instilled in them from an early age (either from parents, teachers or religion).

It sounds like you're carving out time for you but if you look at what you are choosing, you're filling it with stressful activity and busy work (except for the alcohol which at least you admit isn't the best thing to turn towards and it is a depressant so it may just be smothering a hyper active mind).

Can you literally sit and do nothing? Can your mind handle it or does your mind always feel like you need to be doing 'something' like it's some driving urge? Enjoying 'nothingness' is a pretty neat thing to do. A favorite Office Space quote: "I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything I thought it could be"

Some people can't turn off their brain like that... that's where I'm really going with this ramble...

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A psychiatrist is a physician.

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Or just do like I do, sever all your personal relationships and become a recluse, then drive around mumbling or yelling to yourself till you think your going to go nuts. Occasionally blow up on some nameless clerk in a store till your bloodpressure gets so high your vision go's blurry. Oh and then break something.

Works for me.
LOL classic One of my first jobs was customer service. What you described was about 1 out of every 5 customers we dealt with.

Rick, you know there is a whole "science" about life energy. It has to do with fasting and things like that. It believes working out, jobs, eating, etc all lower the immune system. There has to be a balance of "energy" expenditure and "energy" creation. You seem out of balance and your body is telling you this by your "reactions".

Perhaps your physical workouts and lifestyle is too much for what your body can handle. Perhaps you are not allowing your body enough "rest" for what you put it through.

Let's face it, your not 20 years old anymore. Might be time to slow down, bro. No offense, just stating my opinion.

"includes 10 used-car dealers or auto repair shops, 11 liquor stores and bars--two of which advertise lingerie fashion shows and a third billed as a "gentlemen's club"--three cut-rate motels and one trailer park. The squat, brick municipal building is next to a currency exchange and a few steps from an adult video store. The bars open at 10 a.m. and close at 6:30 a.m."

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Something must be fishy...I am going to go poke around in the back end..

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